There’s that creepy smile again. I think that was actually what sent a lot of people over the top. We’ve seen that smile before on the faces of people about to hurt us.
(and yes I know it’s just a yellow smiley-face.)
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explain the smilie please, where it’s implied that whipping the child is happy and fun.
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explain the phrase ‘dietary supplement’ where it implies that belt beatings are a natural occurancce
And finally, no, I don’t think there is EVER an occasion to ‘burn’ a child’s ass. Even when I was young and ran away from home out in front of a car which could have ended my life, I was not whipped soundly with a belt.
I presented links to both threads where everyone was able to interpret all the context they wanted. And something also tells me, and Joe_Cool is free to contradict me, that this is the ONLY time he’d use a belt.
Also, Jersey Diamond speaks of being whipped with switches until she had welts…I’m curious, do you think that was for playing with guns?
No, I do NOT think Scylla, or anyone else, for that matter, would be justified to “burn her ass.”
I agree with your suspicion about Joe – that this is one of the few times a harsh response is called for. Can we move on to happier topics, now?
Guinistasia:
Just what punishment do you recommend for a child playing with guns, in lieu of a harsh spanking?
Welcome back Ace ol’ buddy. Good to see you learned your lesson.
Depends on the child. Certainly, some SEVERE loss of priviledges, extra work-community service and chores.
And some pretty harsh lectures, including stark descriptions of what could happen.
Loss of something the child was looking forward to, maybe?
I don’t know. However, I don’t think the automatic response is “I’ll whup the skin off ya!”
Methinks you have your Aces confused.
Nah, trying not to get ace0spades in my hot water ‘n’ stuff. I’ll put it clearer in the sig or something. E-mail me if you want all the fun details.
Ah, I see that I wasn’t on the name-change-notification-list. My bad, homebrew…
I figured he was just trying to be folksy, and the smilie was just him smiling at his wit. A lot of people do that on here.
Interestingly enough, “wit” is a pretty good onomatopoetic representation of the sound of being hit with a switch.
WIT WIT WIT – “Had enough? Here, have some more of my” WIT WIT WIT
Random thoughts upon just coming back from the thread in which most of this comes from…
I think the main problem I had was the amount of hostility from Jersey Diamond and Joe-Cool towards…basically anyone who disagreed with them. Maybe this is a personal issue, or maybe they are reacting to the pit thread. An example would be the negativity towards Anahita from JD…seemed out of line with the current discussion to link A to actual people in JD’s life…thus JD was able to generalize as to what A’s opinions and behavior MUST be…thus including her in on the insults she labeled at those very teachers.
But, what truly befuddles me, from Jersey Diamond ( I can’t link this as nothing is showing in my address bar for some reason)
This seems like a threat. Why are we threatening people in a Great Debate? Also, the majority of the negativity has been from Joe and Jersey in that thread so ‘huh’? (Maybe I’m missing what has so pissed them off?)
I realize this isn’t really a pit topic as I am mainly confused by the hostility, but then it would have fit in ‘Great Debate’ either, so I thought it better here.
I informed Jersey that I’d be MORE than willing to listen to her glorious child beating stories face to face, and I’d have NO QUALMS AT ALL with calling child services…something Joe_Cool referred to as ‘breaking up a family’.
It sounds to me like they regard children like possessions.
Well meaning people with this attitude have caused a lot of misery in this world.
Everyone does.
I understand you are trying to have a child of your own. When and if you do, get back to us with how you feel about people who disagree with your parental decisions ‘breaking up a family’.
So we shouldn’t report child abuse? Gotcha.
I strongly believed I saved a child’s LIFE in highschool when I reported the welts on his back. The mother had a record and was neglecting a four year old boy, sometimes leaving him at home ALONE for ten or more hours at a time.
I suppose I should have just let the beatings continue.
I trust when I have a child that inflicting painful injury on them won’t be part of my parenting decisions. I can say that without even having one.
What I object to is your smug and carefree attitude about it all - you would have “NO QUALMS AT ALL”, and you regard the notion that you are breaking up a family as being some unique Joe Cool perspective.
I’m not saying that families should never be broken up - obviously they should, in extreme cases. Possibly the one you reported was one of those - it certainly sounds like it was. But the breaking up of a family can cause a lot of hardship to all involved, included the child, and should never be undertaken lightly.
Through all the hyperbole, it does not seem like JD’s child is abused, and if you were to break up that family you would likely be doing a grave disservice to all involved, however righteous you might feel about it.
I’m not suggesting that you would abuse your own child, of course. But I am suggesting that perhaps then you too will understand the concept of “breaking up a family” that Joe refers to.
If Jersey Diamond relayed the story to me, live, that she did in GD about making a child cut her own switch and then whipping her legs until they were covered in red welts…I would absolutely not have any qualms.
I’m not saying I do it right upon being introduced. I’m saying that if presented with the evidence that she was hurting and leaving marks on her child, I would call.
I’ve seen children get smacked on the bottom or hand and done nothing, it when you casually refer to leaving welts or your child not being able to sit down that I get a little wary.
Maybe if [insert name here as I am too lazy to look it up] acted more like a parent herself, the teacher wouldn’t have to pick up her slack.