John Allen Muhammed Found Guilty

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6.5 hours of deliberation and the jury came back guilty. Now they have to decide on death or life in prison.

God, what a miserable few weeks that was last year.

Is anyone really surprised?

I found it somewhat curious that there wasn’t more press coverage on this trial. I think it would have been more shocking if he’d been found not guilty.

Now he gets his punishment.

Place your bets: will the jury go for the DP?

My guess is they will.

Good, I am glad he did not get off for Insanity or some other F’ed defense. I hope he gets the Death Penalty.

After O.J., and Robert Durst? Nothing would surprise me.

Eve took the words right out of my mouth. I’m glad they didn’t pull a Durst.

I am not opposed to the death penalty in general, but I think it is used a bit too often. However, I think anyone that kills a kid, or attempts to and has committed other murders deserves to take a seat on old sparky.

Moderator’s Notes:
We are so not gonna have a debate about capital punishment in this forum. If that is anyone’s intent, take it to Great Debates.

Damn, UncleBeer. You just killed this thread :slight_smile:

I don’t think anyone was looking to debate the DP on here, I’m certainly not …

but hey terd. How is executing only 0.2% of people on death row “using the death penalty too often?”

Cite:
Since 1967, there has been one execution for every 1600 murders, or 0.06 %. According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report & Bureau of Justice Statistics, there have been approximately 560,000 murders and 358 executions from 1967-1996. By ratio, this is an exceptionally small percentage. Approximately 5900 persons have been sentenced to death and 358 executed from 1973-1996. An average of 0.2 % of those were executed every year during that time. Again, and exceptionally small ratio.

http://www.holdenpd.com/opinions5.html

Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have said anything.

Fair enough, snoop. You are not going to get much an argument from me. It is just a difference of opinion. Numbers are not necessary. That is all I have to say about that.

Moderator’s Notes:

You’re not looking to debate, yet you wanna argue statistics, facts and opinions. Sounds like a debate to me.

Take it to the proper forum, dammit.

Will there be a separate trial for each murder?

Mariemarie, no. In the event of multiple murders, the trials are generally lumped by jurisdiction (e.g. all the murders that occurred in Virginia will be lumped together). Prior to the trial, the county/state/fed prosecutors, as applicable, all hammer out who is going to claim jurisdiction and who is going to prosecute first. There is definite strategy involved here. Sometimes the first jurisdiction to prosecute is the one who has the strongest case against the defendant, sometimes it’s the jurisdiction that has the most severe penalty.

FYI, there are even times when defendants stand trial together. Defense attorneys usually argue to try the defendants separately, for various reasons. IIRC, the Menendez brothers were tried together…

I realized that I never heard what his defense was based on. Did he have one? I assume he did since it went to trial, so he apparently didn’t say, “Yeah, I iced the bitch. So what?” but didn’t hear about it on the news.

In a nutshell, his defense was that no one ever witnessed him pull the trigger. The shootings were all blamed on the kid.

Thanks. He was just the kid’s chauffer, eh? :rolleyes: