Not when we have to restrain ourselves in Great Debates. Now that we’re in the Pit, we have more freedom to tell him what we really think.
At a shooting gallery in the city the handgun was attached to wires so you couldn’t point it away from the target. And in the gun club they only let you put in 5 rounds and they watch you really carefully. I guess they’d grab me if I tried to aim away from the targets…
BTW my sisters and many of their friends think I’m not just mentally ill, I’m also demon possessed. While I was in the hospital one time, the former boyfriend of my sister wrote in a letter that I am possessed by an “intellectual” demon.
BTW here’s the letter:
Each and every post JC makes in the GD thread is more of a “down the rabbit hole/through the looking glass” bit of denying that he’s a truther when the posts actually show him to be one.
Hey, speaking of CTs, how about these?
[ol][li]CTs, such as Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, etc., are just a cover for anti-Semitism. 9/11 especially pulls that out of a lot of the CTers. It’s rather sad.[/li][li]Many, if not all, of the CTs are a reaction that certain racial/ethnic/religious groups simply could not do something without the assistance of a particular majority (white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, of course). Take Pearl Harbor for example. The CTers simply cannot accept that the Japanese could have done that on their own, without the help of some white guy(s). The favorite choice for which particular white guy is FDR. I know someone who’s firmly convinced that FDR orchestrated the attack. The same person thoroughly despises the Japanese to this day, even little Japanese kids today, for attacking Pearl Harbor. When I asked him why he hates the Japanese for doing what the president ordered (mind you, I don’t believe that claptrap of course), he just looks at me like I am the crazy one.[/li][li]Combination of 1 & 2: We’ll take 9/11 for this example. The CTers just cannot accept the simple fact that some Muslim Arabs managed to carry out a vicious attack on US soil. So the CTers pull out their hatred of Jews and blame them for the attacks.[/ol][/li]
These “theories” about the CTs at least have the benefit of having more evidence supporting them than any damn thing truthers have come up with.
Which reminds me: JohnClay, you’re a truther.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19539909&postcount=210
“…would a dedicated truther say that no explosives were involved? Because I think that is a fact”
No after learning about the JFK conspiracy theories on Penn and Teller’s Bullshit I don’t believe in the JFK CT. And I don’t think Jews were behind 9/11.
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Dude.
What the hell are you doing here?
Are we supposed to be sympathizing with you? Are we supposed to think your sister’s ex is right? Why are you even bringing any of this up?
I may not have my head entirely screwed on straight, and there are plenty of people on the Dope who’ll happily tell you that I’m a sociopath, a psycho, objectively evil, so on and so forth.
But I think I can say with authority that you need help which it is beyond the ability of this community to give you, and you had best seek it before you burn out in a way that hurts everyone around you including yourself.
You have my sympathies. Such views not only don’t help people with mental illnesses to recover, but actually hinder recovery. I hope that, whatever your relationship with your sister and her friends, you do not believe that you are possessed by demons (which - and I want to stress this -* is not a real thing that happens*) and that you are receiving help from qualified and capable medical professionals.
And I also hope that by now you fully accept that the WTC was brought down by two very large airplanes full of fuel crashing into the towers at high speed, and subsequent collateral damage. There is no evidence to support the alternative theories.
(Whether you want to believe that the Bush administration either actively or passively caused the hijackings to happen is a different issue, of course. There’s little evidence for that either, but at least it doesn’t require ignoring basic physics to believe it.)
Oh please!
This is a troll. A garden variety troll. Nothing original, nothing clever. Just the same old, same old, trolling for reactions.
And the dope never, EVER fails to deliver! Could a troll be more lame? Or more transparent? I don’t see how, to be honest! It’s not interesting or even amusing any more.
But when the troll says ‘dance nice for me’, dopers start up the music and choose partners!
Really, y’all are soooooo easy.
How do you not feel dirty every time you engage with this troll?
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Everyone knows Kubrick refused to leave England.
Do you know where you can shove your little guilt trip? If you aren’t mentally healthy enough to be in the fucking BBQ Pit, then stay out of the fucking BBQ Pit.
Please. An intellectually possessed troll.
Just don’t call him a creep.
No, he’s not. You’re just a very cynical person. You’re one of those people who wants to feel superior to everyone else because you “get” it.
No. I’m not.
This is just a troll. Clearly. Repeatedly. On endlessly.
Feel superior? To this lame creature? Good Lord! Pretty sure trolls from decades past feel superior to this fool’s shameless song and dance routine.
Come on, you don’t have to be cynical or superior to see this troll for what he is! (Hint: You just need eyes!)
Can we call you a weirdo?
Maybe he doesn’t belong here.
I don’t think you need worry about that particular demon.
And you guys could just stay out of JohnClay threads when you know he’s saying something stupid. I bailed halfway through the OP.
He’s being stupid, not malicious. There’s no real reason to attack him. Vent out your frustrations? Sure. But attack him? Nah.
Being in the Pit doesn’t make attacking the disadvantaged guy not seem like a shitty move. And, since he’s at a disadvantage, I’m perfectly fine with the guilt trip.
They are different diagnoses, but schizoaffective disorder is basically schizophrenia + bipolar so someone with schizoaffective disorder can be just as psychotically disturbed than someone with schizophrenia. My uncle was schizoaffective and he was way less grounded in reality than you appear to be.
I promise you, citing mental illness is not going to help in this case. Being suicidal well and truly sucks, what your relatives did to you well and truly sucks, but you can’t hold other people accountable for the choices you make, and that includes self-harm when someone says something shitty to you. Do you really want to live your whole life with other people walking on eggshells around you because they think anything they say or do might make you unstable? I’d be mortified to be condescended to in that way. That’s not a good frame of mind to be in.
I’m enthusiastically in favor of people being held accountable for what they say regardless of what issues they may have. How else are we going to learn what is and isn’t appropriate, reasonable, or sound? It’s especially important for people who have difficulty picking up subtle social cues.
I LOLed on that one.
Oh the irony.