Jon Stewart - Return to the Daily Show - The Pit Edition

May I just post a friendly reminder to you inattentive jerks fine posters that this Pit thread was created to rant about Pit-worthy digressions that would have been out of bounds in the CS thread that is well suited to these kinds of discussions.

The only reason I mention this is that it leads to the usual problem of having a conversation fragmented all over the place so you don’t know where to post or where to find the relevant comments. Or maybe just because I’m an obsessive-compulsive shit-disturber. :wink:

I thought his mousse gel smelled way too much like Axe Cologne.*
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.* If you pay extra extra extra for Paramount+++ , it comes complete with ‘Smell-o-Vision’.
But you still are forced to watch commercials.

I have never seen a commercial on the Paramount+ app (unless you mean the teaser for a single other Paramount show).

Hulu is the one where you pay and then watch commercials anyways.

I use “https://www.paramountplus.com/home/”… and yes it nails me with commercials.
( Og, I Hate Commercials )

I was reading a Daily Show book where he had brought Jim Cramer on the show and started skewering him. Oh that he might do that with Trump and Biden. Oh, I wish . . .

If he had either of them on the show and if didn’t, he’d be as washed up as Bill Maher.

“Hey Bill, I Took The Money! Now we both have huge yachts in Rumson. Mine’s called the ‘It Cleared…!’ Pardon me, may I have some Grey Poupon?
Or a couple of pounds of that Hawaiian Dank you’ve been smoking?”

Well, now he’s saying it’s not a big deal that Trump’s stochastic terrorism is no big deal and the media is overhyping it.

https:// www. rawstory .com/ hog-tied-biden/

…He doesn’t get that it’s not 2008 any more, does he?

Well, that’s not at all what he said based on the article you linked, is it? Eta: or based on the actual clip which is also at the link.

What he said was that it is ridiculous that the media said, “these images are too awful and violent to be seen” when they’re happy to show footage of 9/11 or of the aftermath of a school shooting.

What a dumb take on it. Did you watch it, or are you just repeating something you read somewhere?

I was amused at how proud of himself he was for remembering the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890.

I agree with @Smapti.

I think the explanation given on CNN et al was misleading; it’s more about normalizing a level of discourse. Trump supporters *do* include a violent contingent, we’ve seen this over and over, and so this kind of imagery is no joke (even if the owners of the truck think it is). When Trump posts this kind of video, he knows exactly what he’s doing, and the MSM do not want to contribute to getting his message out.

So Jon was “50% right and 100% wrong”…yes, it’s ridiculous to say this image was too graphic or whatever to show, but we absolutely shouldn’t be shrugging off Trump posting this and the continuing ratchet up.

When I watched, I was completely onboard with what Jon was saying, as I assumed some kind of overall take on the big picture was coming. But he made a very passing statement of basically “Trump shouldn’t have posted this” and then moved on to the next segment.

That was my experience as well. He muffed the landing. He didn’t need to say much, but he needed to say something about the MAGAs violent imagery.

Well that is a much more nuanced take on it. I can’t really argue except that I felt he was just using that to launch into his AI opening. The truck part was very brief. The AI promoters sounding stupid or evil was the opening.

TBH I thought his take on AI wasn’t great either; it wasn’t clear what he thought we, or the evil corporate guys, should instead be doing. I know it’s a comedy show, but yeah, the ideal is to be funny and have a point at the same time.

…But I don’t want to be overly harsh.
A lot of the takes on AI that I’ve seen recently, have been basically pointing and laughing at AI mistakes or ways it’s still inferior to human works…basically entrants for the Most Short-sighted Person award. Jon saw his way past that, and was funny.

I read this comment by the warm glow of Bernie Sanders office arson attack. /s

I hope Jon steps up his game.

Can’t wait to hear everyone’s take on this episode. Oh boy.

He nailed it. I don’t think there’s anything to say for the pit thread.

Yeah, I’m not so much of a partisan that I will condemn any criticism of the Biden administration. Jon is right to take them to task on their inconsistency.

And he even acknowledged that the situations between the two wars are different, which I respect. But he’s still not wrong.

This is how you criticize the Biden administration. Much better than the bothsidesism of his first show. What an embarrassing fumble that was.

Yes, I thought last night’s show was fine.