You must REALLY hate this administration. Or the early-21st century one that lied to get the US into a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people and spawned yet another terrorist organization.
Or is it only bad when a comedian SUGGESTS Democrats do it?
Missed this lovely bit. I’m glad you think it’s funny when people say things that lead to other people being killed. It says everything I need to know about the worth of your opinion.
:researches Joy Behar:
:researches ‘The View’:
Really, who cares if some rando with a part-time gig on a TV show gives stupid advice? What’s the purpose of this thread - to inform people that there’s someone named Joy Behar and she says stupid things?
Well… congrats?
I bet Lumpy is fun at parties.
Sometimes the line between “marketing” and “lying” can get a little blurry. It seems to me that any honest person of any political persuasion who is genuinely interested in working with those of opposing viewpoints, without demonizing them, should be able to admit that this is true and that politicians of ALL political stripes do it. Now, we’re all going to draw that line differently depending on our values. Shodan has selected a highly partisan diatribe to prove his point that Obama “lied.” I would say that the Obama crowd “marketed.” But I can understand how others, with views like Shodan’s, would see it differently.
Shodan, the test for you is: can you concede that Republicans (as a general matter - let’s leave the specifics of Trump and his cronies out of it) also blur the line between marketing and lying sometimes? And that what a Republican campaign truly sees as being persuasive could be interpreted differently by someone who doesn’t share their views?
I’m interested to see whether you can still detect shades of gray. It seems like very few people on either side of the aisle can these days.
I forget: Is Rush Limbaugh a [del]stand-up[/del] sit-down comic, or is he chief mentor for the Republican Party? Either way he was in the news recently for admitting to a lie. He admitted that Republicans were never worried about deficit spending: all the deprecations and defecations were just a showy way of attacking D’s.
It’s called Tu Quoque. We Americans needn’t worry about Trump selling out America or its allies anymore; and needn’t worry about children in cages; nor about racists encouraged to commit violence. We needn’t trouble our minds about the First Son-in-Law condoning the assassination of a U.S. jornalist; Turkey’s Erdogan taping that Kushner call; and using it to blackmail Trump into allowing Turks to massacre Kurds. We needn’t worry that Giuliani is probably a crook, that Betsy DeVos is a crook, that the entire Trump family is crooked. We needn’t trouble our little heads with any of that anymore.
Why not? Why are Trump’s crimes irrelevant now? Because some obscure comic with a ‘(D)’ told a joke.
The camera doesn’t lie:
(First 10 seconds)So:
…5. Why are you so concerned about what a talk-show host (who gets paid to say “talk-show things”) said on a talk-show?
And only Republican voters think the host of a TV show is competent to be the President.
It’s too bad Clothahump is no longer with us. This would have provided an amusing diversion in the Stupid Liberal Idea of the Day thread.
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Sure, both sides do it. Except when my side does it, it’s marketing, or spin. When your side does it, it is outright lies.
It might be interesting to see if anyone else on the SDMB can [list=A][li]Leave the specifics of Trump out of it, []admit that sometimes Republicans are engaging in marketing rather than lies, and especially []admit that Democrats do the same thing as Republicans but it gets labeled differently based on political points of view.[/list]I will guess No.[/li]
As in, Rush Limbaugh counts because he has a talk show, and Behar doesn’t count, because she has a talk show, and AOC doesn’t count because she is just marketing, and Obama doesn’t count, because whataboutism is invalid. Except when I do it.
Regards,
Shodan
Alanis Morissette needs to see this thread.
It’s like a bunch of people who are engaging in classic tu quoque arguments accusing the person they’re arguing against of making a tu quoque argument…
The meter needs work, but that’s why she gets paid the big bucks.
Just to be clear, when I am going to talk to the bank office to negotiate a equity loan, and my wife advises me that before I go in I should take off my Bally’s Casino baseball cap, she’s committing credit fraud right?
This is why Democrats are in trouble with Middle America…
Guns are part of American culture
Democrats should not run on gun confiscations.
Background checks, etc.
Even if you “get rid” of AR-15s, there will be loopholes.
Confounded loopholes. I HATE loopholes!
About half of Americans, indeed, Middle Americans, don’t include guns as part of their culture. This is not about what societal segment’s culture is “American” or and what isn’t.
No. She is joking. It’s a hybrid of self-deprecating humor, and pretending to be the terrible person that your political opponent thinks you are. It’s a little like Ingraham drinking a steak through a straw.
I won’t vouch for the hilarity of Behar’s joke, but it’s ridiculous to treat it as anything other than a joke, to say, SEE? SEE?!?!?!?! THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS!!?!?!?!?!!!one!
No, folks: that hysteria is what she’s making fun of.
The only Democrat that said anything serious about confiscating guns has already dropped out. You can keep arguing about it, but it’s a non-issue.