Three votes. I can’t believe this went on for as long as it did.
Execution style. One two and through and through.
Saysha, speak for yourself, not the rest of Minnesota. We may elect weird people to public office, but that doesn’t make us “sick fucks.”
I also vote to give this thread the coup de grace.
BTW, to clarify for those of you who are not Minnesota-born: Having a decent attitude towards others and smiling at strangers is not just accepted and suggested for living here, it’s required.
(P.S. Please don’t take this to mean that I’m justifying my actions.)
You’ve got a vote from me too… Gosh, what bile some of you guys have stored up…
Another BTW, I’ve already asked Alphagene to close this thread.
Merry - The Sunshine and Lollipop Forum is over there ----->
Bu-bye.
If I were to ask everyone on this board if they or someone they know has ever been raped… many of them would say “yes”. Of those, if I asked what the gender of the victim was… what percentage do you think would be male?
Yes, but does that mean that men are immune to paranoia and fear? I can only speak for myself, but HELL NO!!!
Completely off topic–
Freak, what is it with you and closing your own threads.
The first time you did this it was simply irritating, now it’s getting completely fucked up. Huh!?!
Why start this shit if your only going to run away and ask to have your threads closed.
Man you piss me off.
Dear God–
From Freak-[QOUTE]Yes, but does that mean that men are immune to paranoia and fear? I can only speak for myself, but HELL NO!!!
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Judging from the looks of you, you have plenty to fear.
Um, CnoteChris? I think a lot has been resolved in this thread. That’s a weird thing to have happen here at the SDMB, but there ya have it. Freak has reversed his position after being confronted with opinions and arguments that contradict his own. I give the guy mad props for having the balls to do that. Now, aside from the occasional moron that wanders in here to post a thin sticky film of rotting tripe and offal without reading all of the posts (Yes, Saysha, I am looking in your direction), we all seem to have reached a pleasant conscensus regarding the issues originally under attack. Sure, some other tangential issues have arisen, but they can be dealt with in other threads. I say this should be closed. This is a model thread IMHO. It has a beginning, middle and an end. That’s not something you see every day and it sure is refreshing.
La la la . . .
Damn, I read the post wrong.
I thought he was saying he wasn’t afraid of anyone.
I was wrong. Apologises.
I’ll stand by my closing thread post, however.
I know your avoiding talking to me Freak, and I appreciate it, but why are you asking to have your threads closed when the topic becomes hot?
Maybe you need to stick with the MPSIMS forum. You really don’t seem to have the balls to stick around in the pit.
Wasn’t it you who first said I should close this thread?
So far I’ve only closed one other thread that I can remember.
Could you be more specific? What shit are you talking about?
Awwwww! Stop sweet talking me, honey.
Maybe I’m just dense, but I don’t get it. I know it’s supposed to be an insult, but other than that…
No, I’m asking to have it closed when the horse would be begging for mercy if it weren’t already dead. This thread was sinking to the bottom of the page until you posted.
Obviously you have some problem with me that needs to be aired. If so, then why not start a thread?
I think you’re forgetting the large group of people who have turned away from this thread in disgust, or have decided not to post in it anymore (like me, up till now) - to assume a concensus has been reached just because the “cons” are silent is ridiculous.
Yeah, it’s good that FF learned from it, and I applaud him for telling us. But for me personally, that only changes a bit of the problem. Because he DID think this was funny a few days ago. As a grown man. Sober, and unforced. Sure, he learned because we told him. But without sharing it here (or with friends IRL, I don’t know), his guilt would have been restricted to the very vague feeling he described in the OP - and he still would have thought the woman “deserved it”. THAT is what shocks me.
I’m not saying I’m holding a grudge against FF because of all this, but it DID change the way I look at him. Moreover because I still don’t buy the second story about him apologising to the woman - but that may be just me.
Sorry, but there’s your concensus for you.
And Freak? “This thread was almost off the first page untill YOU posted” is never a valid argument. You place an OP, and it becomes a public piece of text anyone can respond to at any given time.
Maybe you should think again before hitting that “Submit new thread” button. I don’t mean this as an attack, but as an advise.
Right.
You tried the ‘sinking to the bottom until you posted’ routine before. Kind of a sad argument if you ask me.
I really dislike you Freak. I don’t know why, but I do. I first noticed it a while back when I joined this board.
You and I have been in a discussion before that ended with you closing the thread. Don’t remember? My ass you don’t.
I have and will avoid your posts at all costs.
You are the boil on the inner cheek of my ass.
Buh Bye!
Fair enough, Coldfire. Argue away. Please bring out all those burning issues you’ve been mulling over during your silence that have yet to be addressed in this thread.
You don’t get it, Tymp. There are no burning issues, at least not for me. I was merely saying that silence does not mean consent. Take that for what it’s worth - which you apparently already did.
I was hoping that this really had blown over. But I hate thinking that there might still be some people out there who have the wrong idea about me.
I haven’t been entirely truthful. There are a few select parts of the experience that I changed for reasons of privacy.
1. The reason I did it. I don’t know her, thank God. But I do know her daughter (we’re good friends, I even feel kinda protective of her), and because of something that happened between her and her daughter, I will probably never forgive her. I can’t tell you what happened betweem the two of them. If that lowers the credibility of my story even further, then so be it. But she swore me to secresy, and I’ll be damned if I’ll break my promise.
2. There never was a chequebook. I ended the whole stunt by tapping her on the shoulder and asking for a quarter.
3. This wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment decision. I thought about it for days, and decided on the most cruel, yet immaterial way to get back at her. I’m as non-violent as they come, and would never physically harm a person. But sometimes I forget that mental/emotional damage can be just as bad.
4. The coincidence. I didn’t just happen to be on the same bus as her, I deliberately picked that bus.
5. I didn’t get pissed because she looked at me dirtily. I was already pissed. But once I went through with it, I felt guilty despite my satisfaction. So I submitted it to you guys to judge whether or not I’d gone too far.
6. I made up the racist remark. I was trying to give other people a reason to hate her as much as I do, without having to share the whole drama. However, the apology did in fact happen. And I can’t tell you how hard it was to apologize to her when I felt it was her who should be doing the apologizing. But I have a nagging conscience, and it wouldn’t leave me alone until I did (but that didn’t work, it still hasn’t).
I wrote out the entire story, and realized that it contained a whole lot of personal issues and inside stories that I just wasn’t comfortable with sharing. Besides which, while much of it was personal to me, it was doubly-so to her daughter. Unfortunately, I didn’t think I’d be let off with just saying “she deserved it, I can’t tell you why”, which is what I’m now being cornered into saying. So I explained my anger towards her with the “dirty look”. If I had thought this through a bit more, I would’ve realized that I shouldn’t post it at all, since no one else would understand the situation without me telling you something that I just can’t tell you. I still think what I did was wrong. Revenge is wrong. Being mean is wrong. But there’s still no question in my mind about whether or not she deserved it.
I apologize for not telling the absolute truth. I really did feel that I needed to share this with you all so I could get another perspective on it, but it got out of hand because I didn’t tell the truth. I thought at the time that I was justified in changing the facts, because I was protecting someone I love. But now I see that if I wanted to protect her I shouldn’t have shared the story in the first place.
Two other things:
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I did think it was funny, and I still do. Sorry.
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I felt guilty about it before I ever posted here. And I feel just as guitly now as I did then.
(BTW, I’ve emailed Alphagene again and asked him to keep this open a little while longer. At least until this gets cleared up.)