Strongly implied, my ass. You’re just putting words in my mouth.
As for the meaninglessness, if you bothered to read my post and the post I quoted, you’ll note we both went to domebo because we were sick of seeing complaining here, and sadly found complaining over there as well.
If you weren’t so desperate to still find a fault with my post, maybe you’d notice that.
I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m extracting an interpretation based on what you wrote. Which is what people do when they, y’know, read. You can claim that “going on and on and on” doesn’t imply “that’s about all they’re doing” but you’d be full of shit.
An interpretation based entirely on your own misreading. You can claim that going on and on and on precludes any other discourse, but you’d be full of shit.
Like I said, you really didn’t read. Which also something people do.
And since this is the pit, you are one of the bigger assholes. You now have a place to go. Troll elsewhere please.
And you are? No, don’t answer; I don’t care.
Seriously. Door… Ass… Whatever.
At one time I actually read your posts. No idea what happened, but now all you do is spew shit. Look at your history. You weren’t always this shitty.
Whatever. If you aren’t happy here take your sad ass elsewhere and stop being a dick here.
There are all sorts of message boards if you are that unhappy. Hell, you could even moderate one if you ask nicely.
Door. Ass. Go now.
Yeah, let’s tear up this community in a bunch of recrimination.
Ed fucked up. He know it; he admitted it. I am for now unimpressed with his attempts to win back the disaffected – if he’s even trying to do so, about which I claim no knowledge, either way. There were and remain legitimate gripes as well as picayune nitpickery. But above all, there is a sense among many of those leaving that Creative Loafing, the Chicago Reader, Ed Zotti, and the board moderation staff, could largely give a shit whether anyone remains a part of this board or not. Ad views, you see, are fungible. The difference between informative posts by Colibri or Bricker, on the one hand, and “lulz thatz fukced up kthxbai” make no difference to the CL bottom line.
A lot of good people, people who have made substantive posts and meant a lot to this community, have indicated that they’re leaving. More have simply quietly left, without fuss. Some of them have been here since 1999 or 2000.
About the last thing this board needs is for anyone, relatively new or a longtimer, to kick them out. So I suppose this thread was to be expected – it’s the final ingredient needed in the board-as-community’s corporate effort to tear itself apart.
Me – I’m staying – and joining the splinter boards. I don’t want to miss zny of the friends I’ve made over the years. I don’t want to lose their informative and often wise posts.
And I wish Ed saw things the same way, so none of this BS would have been needed.
To explain the outrage, not support it:
Basically the idea is that some random dude who hasn’t been seen on the board but three times in ten years comes in, bans several people in his first week and a month later starts changing rules that have been in place for years.
If the regular mods who we knew and respected had made those same rules, I don’t think there would have been anywhere near the same level of outrage. It’s that it’s come from some asshole who no one knows, who doesn’t know us, and has no proven track record of understanding what people like here, let alone improve it.
I’m so sorry, but I got the same impression that QED got from your post, because you said:
So I went over there and checked. It took me a while to even FIND the threads about the SDMB because they’re tucked away in a separate subforum. There are some threads going about resigning from the Dope, and complaining about Ed, but not too many. Certainly not “going on and on and on” as you depicted.
I am a member of both boards but posting here more because I’m used to it, lest you think I actually have a dog in this fight. I don’t. But you did give an inaccurate impression of the discussion there, at least to me.
Me, too. This splintering has been hard for me, probably because of shit that is happening in my RL. I have joined the other 2 boards and will also soldier on here as well. Eventually, either I will move on or some melding or falling away will happen. I respect and like too many Dopers and now ex-Dopers to say "go away " (which is as silly as those who prolong their departure) or to take my toys and go home. All of this is happening in real time and each board will evolve over time. Why not just let it happen?
How hard is it to not read threads that you don’t like or approve of? WTF?
Well. That’s deeply ironic.
Yeah, well, I was a little overboard on the rhetoric. I’m just kind of blown away, though, by the huge reaction to some minor bullshit rule changes, even though I agree the rule changes are bad ideas. I just can’t see that they’re important enough to sweat over.
Is it still considered threadshitting in the Pit?
I guess that’s another point of mine that I didn’t elaborate on before. I’m a member at other boards. Heck, I even signed up at one of the new ones. Should we all join all the boards? Sure! Why not? But (and here’s where we actually agree, Taters) why the hell do we need all the drama?
I’m a drama queen.
(No but seriously, this has been one of the most entertaining weeks of my life and I’m just glad it happened over my spring break so I didn’t have to miss a minute of it.)
Not disagreeing really, but just not seeing what you’re seeing. I know you said that this is not about a specific poster, but how about a specific thread or some specific threads.
So far, I’ve seen 2 threads in MPSIMS announcing the opening of 2 new boards domebo and Giraffeboards.
And earlier this morning, I saw a thread titled We’re finally moving! which seemed like a farewell thread, but it’s hard to say since it was in a metaphor form. That just got moved to ATMB.
And there was a thread that’s off the front page of MPSIMS about other boards to go to like SDMB. But that sunk off the page a while ago, I think.
So that’s all there is in MPSIMS, two threads announcing the opening of two new message boards.
Now there’s a bunch of stuff going on in ATMB with people starting threads where they disagree with the administration, but generally if people don’t like seeing people argue with the administration, they don’t go there.
So maybe you can specify which threads you have objections to because I’m not seeing them. It would be easy enough to stay out of unpleasantness by not going to ATMB for the moment.
As for the rest of this thread, that’s even more confusing since there are people talking about complaining about this place that’s happening at other places. Wow, if we had to worry about that, we’d have to police everyone at their dinner tables to see that they’re not complaining about people here.
On preview: I wrote this before I saw your last post. Are you talking about drama here or somewhere else?
Hell, I don’t know. I don’t know anything at this point.
I don’t want this to get derailed and I don’t want this to be sent to ATMB, but I was specifically referring to how some posters here and at other boards are putting down DoMeBo. That attitude is just…well…it just pisses me off, I guess, or I wouldn’t have posted at all. I was trying to stay out of all the drama and just wanted to stay in the background, the way I always do.
Folks can go to the other boards or not. I don’t care. I just want to stay in touch with posters I’ve come to enjoying reading and communicating with. So, I’m posting at all of them.
I don’t see the need to be nasty to anyone regarding the whole thing. Ironically, I’m posting this in the Pit of all places.:dubious: I guess I’m not really cut out for the Pit. And now, I’m all embarrassed because I don’t feel like I’ve been at all eloquent in what I’ve written.:o
And I don’t want further fractioning either. But we really don’t need people coming here and stirring shit only for the purpose of stirring shit.
If they are so unhappy here, there are now no less than four other spinoff fora ( I can’t remember the Aussie board so there may be five) to go to and do whatever. Why stay here and be pissed? Why keep coming back if you hate it here so much? The only reason I can see is to troll or death by mod or to start a board war or???.
If someone is seriously interested in changing the board then doing so in the current manner only shows that Ed really is correct; the board needs to change.
No reason to keep coming here and spewing anger and hate and bile and venom. How long before other boards get just as tired of it?
Not really. It’s not uncommon knowledge.
All I’m saying is give it up already. You have a place to go where you can call someone a cunt all you want.
Like I said, I’m not sure where the change occured nor why but you haven’t been presenting yourself as you once did. If you are so unhappy here, why come here? When my son joined he was impressed that you could answer just about any question. You still can. So why the hate? We both know there are better ways to bring about change. I’m sure Ed does too.
But it really is his board. It’s his ship to sink or float. There aren’t two people piloting the plane and buses aren’t driven by committee. If you don’t like where this train goes, don’t get on. (well not really but there is a better way to bring about change)
Is the OP you started really necessary or are you spewing shit for the sake of shit-spewing and this doesn’t only apply to you.
Well there’s a difference between you claiming I am giving an ‘inaccurate impression’, and QED’s wholly fictional claim that I’d somehow missed the entire rest of the boards.
So really, when you count up the ‘on and ons’ between my post and Lurkmeister’s, you’ll find I noted a 40% drop in complaining at the new board over the old one. Perhaps not entirely statistical or optimistic, but an improvement. 
The splinter boards are enjoying what the members will later refer to as “the busy period.” The novelty will soon wear off, the joys of rebellion will diminish and new conflicts will arise, not terribly different from the old. Factions and cliques will form, as they always do, and some will drift away, some will post less often. I’ve seen this at least a dozen times and it always plays out the same way.
You see, successful message boards thrive because they have a unifying purpose, the members share a common interest. Rebellion boards soar and fizzle because once their only reason for existence fades from the group conciousness there is nothing to replace it.
So shine on Domebo, happy trails Giraffeland. Merge now and save the heartache of having to do it later. I don’t wish you ill, but I’d make a small wager that in 6 months you’ll be lucky to have 20 new posts a day. Peace.