Just so you know(about savekaryn.com)

No, I missed that one.
Can somebody explain this to me?

Holy Jesus

She is such a chancer isn’t she. The brass ovaries on this one is something else.

I would hope she shuts that down now that the debt is paid of or at least changes the blurb to be something like. Remember me the person who got lots of people to pay of my debt well now I’m cashing in on my “fame”. Buy some stuff with my name on it.

I’ve never said she should be held up as a great person I’m just questioning the passion that some people seem to exhibit when talking or posting about her.

Brass balls. You gotta give her that.

I don’t advocate violence, but this

is even too much for me!!

The jersey is nice though.

Now where’s my credit card?

You doing Cris-kindel(sp?) this year ToF :stuck_out_tongue:

That Metro bag looks nice…

kriskindle?

this year its FESTIVUS!

I’m going looking for the Aluminium pole. We’ll take it as a given you’ll win the Feats of Strenght.

Hmm.
I owe my mother 12000 dollars.
I owe 15000 on my car.
I owe 10000 on my student loans.
I own 2000 on my credit cards.

Someone please send me money? I need it. :slight_smile: I’m NICE!

(yes, I am going to pay this all off myself. and it won’t take me 40 years. and I only get paid 30k/year.)

Stupid, huh?

Well, I also have quite a few $500 pieces of art - paintings and sculpture. In fact, I have a triptych that was ~ $1,000.

So - does that make me stupid also? Should I just settle for a crappy unicorn poster tacked up with pins and be done with it?

I’m pretty sure that appreciating the aesthetic of an extremely well crafted pair of shoes does not make me stupid. It means that I like shoes.

Or would it be more acceptable to you if I spent thousands on a computer, even though a basic one suits my needs. Perhaps a $70,000 sports car, even though my 14-year-old ford does just fine.

Good lord - you buy the shit you want, and I’ll buy the shit I want, and keep your pissy judgments to yourself.

Good hell, I can understand detesting the way she went about getting people to pay off her debt, but I don’t understand (or as Stoid said, maybe I do understand) why some of you are so enraged to the point of wishing violence on her and typing in RED ferhellsake. My Gawd, does your hateful rage for this woman keep you up at night?

Did she force you personally into giving her money? Did she lie or trick anyone? Why does it matter so much to you what other people chose to do with their money? Chill the fuck out.

As far as the judgmental $500 shoes thing - I will spend my money that I earn on the things I want and it doesn’t make me a fucking bitch or foolish.

I don’t think twice about dropping a few grand on a major vacation or buying designer sunglasses, but on the other hand I wouldn’t spend $10 on the shoes Guin linked to (sorry, but I think they are fugly) nor would I spend a dime for a website.

I will spend big bucks on a nice, hard cover book, but I would never buy a new CD or videos when I can get a previously viewed for $5.00.

I use $40.00 dollar hair conditioner but $1.99 shampoo. I would never spend more than $10 for lipstick.

But you know what? We are all different people with different tastes. What you may see as a waste of money others may see as an earned luxury or necessity. To judge others by how they spend their money is both snobbish and judgmental and really none of your business.

Really? I have got some wonderful buys at Old Navy. Most recently a coat for my daughter that was reduced to $30.00 and TWO sweaters for $12.00.

Well, then, you were lucky-I never find anything there. But maybe it’s changed.

I don’t hate her, and I don’t wish her ill. I just find her annoying and perky and shallow.

And yosemite, I have no problem with splurging (says the girl who has god knows how many dolls and large books cluttering her room). And I would definitely spend 500 dollars on those Peter Fox Titanic boots if I had the money.
But I guess I just feel sort of sad. I mean, my dad was making less than 50K a year when I was growing up-and he had a wife and two kids to support, and car payments and rent and later a mortgage.

And whoever said that spending less on cosmetics on a whim isn’t saving is correct. It’s those little 2 dollars here and there that will end up doing you in.

Plus, she could buy a lottery ticket, but she couldn’t spend a dollar to get her sister a birthday card-and talked about sending her a USED card?

Like I said-I don’t hate her. But she puts up her website for all to see, and yeah, I’m gonna comment. And yeah, I am jealous, because it seems she’s just coasting through life, while I don’t know if I’m going to find a job at all. And I’m lonely.

ALICE and YOSEMITEGIRL, the problem isn’t how she “chooses” to spend money she actually has, but how she “chooses” to spend money she doesn’t have – and then the fact that she has the face to ask total strangers to bail her shallow ass out. I don’t think anyone is saying we all should not have the absolute right to spend our money how ever we see fit, but if you’re racking up debt . . . well, people will be more understanding of a debt incurred to pay rent and put food on the table – and plenty of people are so strapped that the groceries go on the credit card – than they will be of “Tee hee! Silly ol’ me! I spent 20 grand on bags and shoes! But I’m doing soooooooo much better now – I drink tap beer! And now I only order appetizers! So send me money, pretty please with sugar on top!”

And in response a great number of people did say: “Do you believe this chick? She’s got balls of solid brass. She appears to be without a single redeeming characteristic, much less an excuse for her behavior. I’d set my money on fire before I’d send it to her.”

But a great number of OTHER people said: “Wow! She’s so honest about her difficulties! How courageous to tell us all what a useless, shallow person she is – gosh, that must have taken guts! She’s put her foolishness and greed on public display – how admirable! I’d better reward her by sending her some money!”

That’s what I find astonishing. It’s like people overlook the bad behavior in order to admire the shamelessness of begging for money to fix it. I just don’t get that. “A total lack of shame” and “courage” are not the same things – they are not even close to being the same things. The fact that some people mistake one for the other does not IMO speak well of their intelligence.

Excellent post, TLW.

Piker! I have over 50K in student loans from an aborted Ph.D., 5K in credit cards, 18K on the wife’s car, and a wife and daughter who have that strange female predilection for thinking that shoes, underwear, and clothes have to be replaced before they fall apart.

Everyone, go to http://savestofsky.com and donate and I’ll send you naked pictures, a t-shirt, and I’ll tell you all about the fat chick I got to buy me a beer.

Hell, I’m almost tempted to start-for comic relief and just to see if it would work-a website asking people to send me money for no reason at all. Just because, well, I want money.

Of course I wouldn’t do it, but I just wonder if people WOULD send me money.

What size t-shirts?

Jodi - yes, she’s a wing-nut. A flake. A bozo. But not because she buys designer shoes and bags.

I have no objection to people thinking she’s a loser - she’s certainly a user, which I have no respect for whatsoever. However, I object to the suggestions (made by some posters - not yourself) that liking and buying things that are expensive and don’t somehow facilitate open-heart surgery, makes you a loser.

Well, I also object to the suggestions that violence is somehow warranted against her. Give me a break - she bought shoes - she didn’t abuse children or kick puppies, or run a dictatorship. She bought shoes. Relax people.

Yes. Yes they would.

Agreed—100% agreed—she’s silly and shallow.

Yeah they are. They are enraged that people spent money to bail this silly git out. They are judging alice_in_wonderland’s expensive shoes. My rant wasn’t just about this silly ninny with her website, it’s about all the anger directed at any extravagant spending.

Agreed—once again, no argument. She’s a complete airheaded ninny.

We had people go much farther than that. We had absolute OUTRAGE. Like it was a personal affront. Like she did something to THEM, personally. She didn’t do a damn thing to them. She was just a silly ninny. Living in a world full of silly ninnies.

Who here said they’d send her money? Who? Some of us said, “Well, at least she wasn’t lying or deceiving, she was up-front with her foolishness, and people could decide whether or not they wanted to help her.”

There is a distinction between a swindler who says they need food for their starving children, and the bum on the corner with the sign that says, “Why lie? I want some beer.” I sort of compare this girl to the bum that asks for beer money. It’s not admirable, it’s not something that deserves respect, but there is no scam going on. They are flakes and deadbeats and are hoping someone else will bail them out. Call 'em losers, don’t respect them, but this personal OUTRAGE (as if they did something PERSONALLY terrible) is misplaced.

I for one am not condoning or overlooking bad behavior. I just am not getting all worked up about it. Her “fix” did not involve scamming me or anyone else. Her “fix” was a shameless (yes, I use that word yet again) plea for help. And it worked. No skin off my nose, no reason for me to get worked up into a lather over it. I sure as hell am not going to act as if some silly deadbeat’s plea for money is a personal affront to ME. Because it isn’t. And I don’t understand why some of you are acting as if it IS a personal affront to you.

And like I said before, my rant wasn’t just about this silly woman, it’s about the judgments made about how other people spend money, and what they think is “cheap” and what they think is a “necessity”. We could argue all day long about what is a necessity and what isn’t. We’ll never get anywhere.

YOSEMITEBABE, I would merely point out that a grand total of one poster has reacted in a manner that might reasonably be called “outraged” or “enraged.”

But I certainly do reserve my right to think that people who send this chick money are absolute fools. That is not saying that they do not have the right to send her money, just like I never said she didn’t have the right to beg for money as she did. But neither do I have to respect someone who “chooses” to spend their cash bailing this idiot out, any more than I have to respect any one of a hundred other ways people might choose to spend their money, from blowing it on Cuban cigars to sending in to the Moonies.

I don’t think I have to make judgments about every single person’s every last discretionary purchase (“I spend money on shoes;” “I spend money on computers;” “I spend money on nice dinners out”) in order to hold and air the opinion that sending money to a pathetic, ditsy, unrepentant social parasite is a singularly bad use of funds. Do you (general ‘you’) have the right to do so? Sure. You have the right to set your money on fire, if that’s what you want. But I’m not required to think that’s a great use of it, and I’m not out of line to say so.

I agree with you, however, that it’s a bad idea to extrapolate from that POV the existence of any right to pass judgment on how others spend their cash. I may spend all my discretionary income on ho-ho’s and cream soda and, in the words of Billie Holiday, ain’t nobody’s business if I do. So I think we’re talking about two different things, and I don’t think we’re actually disagreeing on either.