“An Oak Creek High School teacher has been arrested after authorities said he posted comments online in a debate about teacher salaries, saying the Columbine High School shooters were heroes.”
Aaaand that’s a crime… right?
Maybe you should read a more detailed article before jumping to conclusions. That article you quoted was little more than a fluff piece. I’m still inclined to think his arrest was a bit of an overreaction, but in light of the precise nature of the comments he made, it’s almost understandable.
``They knew how to deal with the overpaid teacher union thugs. One shot at a time! Too bad the liberls (sic) rip them; they were heros (sic) and should be remembered that way,’’
I went to high school in the next town over, and had a cousin in the cafeteria when it happened, and I still own my trenchcoat. This is pure bullshit.
So lets see if I have this right.
Buss is a chemistry teacher who was also president of a teachers union. Apparently he is a bit jealous of another teachers union where the teachers make more money so he’s glad the shooters at columbine opened fired on the high paid teachers in the other union.
This whole thing wouldn’t even be an issue if he would have simply done a better job when he was president of his union. Getting upset because teachers make too much money? That’s new.
Judging by the little bits of dialogue in the artic, Buss seems like a bit of an idiot.
And todays demonstration of why its a bad idea to try and post “anonymously” to a message board when your drunk is…
Agree that making an arrest over this is a little much (unless there was some other evidence he had violence in mind), but can’t blame the authorities for firing him.
So he got arrested for bad spelling? I could get behind that.
Wasn’t there a Pit thread, a long time ago, from somebody who praised the Columbine shooters as heroes? Hmmm…
I don’t get what law he broke… the article said (at the very end), that “police are seeking criminal misdemeanor charges of unlawful use of computerized communication systems and disorderly conduct against Buss.” How did he unlawfully use computerized communication systems, and how was he disorderly?? I don’t agree with what he said but I don’t want to live in a world where you are arrested for stating an unpopular opinion.
I edited to the thread title to be less generic and more descriptive.
I think that law enforcement has gotten a little upset that the comments this teacher made held the potential for inciting students or others to commit acts of violence.
The teacher was pretending to be some illiterate against the teachers getting pay raises. It was, I suppose, to serve as a reminder of how dangerous their jobs are.
What he did was both dishonest and potentially dangerous. He should be out of the profession permanently. As for criminal charges, that would depend on the laws about attempting to incite to riot – which he wasn’t trying to do anyway. Or maybe laws regarding disturbing the peace would apply here.
What a jerk!
“unlawful use of computerized communication systems”
Honest question here, isn’t that the most vague law you’ve ever heard of?
And why “computerized communication system”? What seperates a computer communication from any other form of communication?! Why should computer communication be regulated in any other form than pre-existing laws and regulations?
Clearly an unlawful use of a computerized communication system. Johnny Law gonna come looking for you.
The only theory I can come up with is that perhaps he posted this while at school and there are rules in place about using your public-paid computers for work related matters. (Kind of way to catch porn addict public servants from using their work computers…) Even so, it seems a bit of a stretch to charge him with anything illegal.
From this case to the mother who impersonated a teenage boy to torment a 13 year old neighbor (who then committed suicide), adults adopting false identities and posting this sort of garbage on the internet makes me crazy. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, making me crazy isn’t a crime.
Dishonest, yes, but dangerous how?
The guy was basically being sarcastic over the internet, and he got arrested for it. I have a hard time grasping why that is okay.
Trolling message boards now illegal!
Don’t worry, he can just tell the police officers “Whoosh.”
Either something’s wrong with my reading comprehension or the same problem applies instead to most of the rest of you folks. I’m ready to accept the former analysis, but I’d like to check my thinking with you all first.
Unless I’m missing something, the person in question was clearly not issuing any kind of threat or threatening words at all in any sort of reflection of his own thinking or ideas.
He was deliberately posting right-wing **idiocy **-- deliberately praising Harris and Klebold – ***not ***because he actually felt that way, but because he wanted to hurt the reputation of the board he was posting to! He was deliberately lying in order to make the board look more like a far-right nutjob site, the kind that would host praise for Harris and Klebold, by, of all things, praising Harris and Klebold. What’s so hard to understand? Why are so many of you upset unless you think Buss was seriously intending to praise the Columbine killers? Which he clearly was not doing!
If I’m correct (and the Q.E.D.'s link reads just that way to me), then: Q.E.D., Darth Nader, drm, Malodorous, KGS, nyctea scandiaca, PunditLisa, and by far the most massively counter-informed, Zoe (which wouldn’t surpise me if this is the same Zoe from an old LDS message board I once frequented (no insult intended towards anyone who’s LDS, of course) have been mightily whooshed!
Am I wrong? Or what?
Well, the article says:
We don’t know if that’s what he was actually doing or not. Which is why I said “almost understandable” in my other post, y’see.
Sure, but I can see no grounds for doubting that. I mean, look at the clues: Spelling errors (just as one would expect from a right-wing loon), praising teacher (and student) killers (just as one would expect from a right-wing loon), posting on a right-wing site, calling for teachers to be paid LESS (or at least denying them raises), etc., etc.
What other interpretation might there be with any probability beyond 0.000000001 %?
Umm…whenever it seems like you’ve whooshed everyone in the room, the actual truth is that you’ve only managed to whoosh yourself.
This guy’s a teacher, and it’s clear that our society holds teachers to a ridiculously high standard these days (or at least, the media makes it seem so.) For example: Teacher with spyware on her computer is convicted (not just arrested, but convicted) of “endangering students”. How ridiculous is that? No more or less than this pro-Columbine guy.
It seems to me that only a totally whooshed person would respond as you’ve just done. This isn’t a “teacher” who posted “threats”, this is just a guy who posted a lie on a message board to make the board look bad. It’s as if I posted as, say, KGS and wrote that this story is about a “teacher” who posted “threats”. That’d sure make the SDMB look like it hosted absurd rubbish and thereby make the SDMB look dumb, but even if I were a teacher who lied, it’s all a fucking joke!
Your posts haven’t even begun to reflect that very, very obvious fact!
Who’s been whooshed here? KGS has been whooshed.
Are you saying the guy’s not really a teacher? Are you saying the story’s a hoax? What on earth are you talking about?
Maybe you should put down the bong and wait until you can form coherent sentences.