abbeytxs, me too! Amazing what an actor can do when given interesting material to work with. Can we assume he’s not dead, since he’s almost a star?
Zeldar, I liked the snappy dialogue, but it’s not very realistic. Almost too much quick wit in this episode.
“You won’t like Mexico. It’s full of Mexicans.” (I’ve forgotten Boyd’s comeback, except that it was witty.) Then Raylan: “Was it the crack about the Mexicans?”
Saw Olyphant on Ellen yesterday. He’s quite the raconteur.
I grant you that you’d probably not find that level of wit and “snap” in the average conversation of your typical Kentuckian, but that’s not to sell them short when it’s old friends who have a knack for picking at each other. The pace may be pushed a bit, but if they slowed it down to the typical level, they wouldn’t be able to get as much in in 40 minutes, and there was certainly a lot to cram in this episode. It’s just refreshing to hear “real people” talking “real talk” even if it’s a bit rushed for the normal exchange.
I’m just so glad to be back in this show’s glow.
Well, since they shot Clay Morrow in Sons of Anarchy and I thought he was dead, and yet he came back in the next season, I’m not making any predictions on whether he survived the showdown, but I tend to agree that having him on for only part of one episode sure seems like a waste.
And I was amazed at how totally different the whole vibe of his character was in this role from the drunk and mousy asshole in Dexter. I hope he’s around for a while longer. Gives an edge to things. But the edge that Neal McDonough has brought may signal that they’re willing to pay A-list actors good money for a short lifespan on the show. If Mykelti Williamson (next week’s previews) is any sign of the quality of actors to appear this season, watch out Emmys!
I’m a huge fan which pales in comparison to a certain family member that got me watching this show.
Nonetheless, I can’t stand Winona.
And there’s never enough shooting.
I loved it. Great writing, great scenes, and just about perfect acting.
I remember there being an episode in the first season (I think?) were they introduced a super awesome character and I was shocked by how quickly the used him up. I felt a similar way about the hitman/thief in this episode, although, he doesn’t look dead, at least.
I spent most of the episode wondering when Raylan was going to have to face the countdown and what he would do to counteract the ice pick. (I was guessing a pushed over table.) I figured it would happen later in the season, so I was a bit surprised by that. But, I was even more shocked by the awesome quick table cloth move.
Here’s a question. What benefit did he gain by going to see Raylan? I loved the scene, it was filled with tension, humor, and great acting. But, I didn’t get what he had to gain by going there. Revenge for screwing up his plan?
Oh man. I almost forgot. Ava was incredibly awesome in this episode.
“You didn’t have to do that.”
“I just did it. So, I must have had to.”
Started watching the premiere and knew something was wrong in the “previously on” recap.
Somehow, completely unbeknownst to me I apparently managed to miss last season’s finale. So now I have to go track that down. Just a few things of importance apparently happened in that episode.
Same here, and I remember some of the details (Mags swilling down the apple pie) but not others. Is it conceivable that they just tampered with that “previously on” snippet just to adjust the action line for S3? I damn sure don’t recall Raylan being shot!
I have been trying to locate a free replay of Ep13 Bloody Harlan with no success so far. Several sites with it are wanting money or are “hazardous” sites according to Norton.
What’s going on here?
I love the fact that, having outsmarted Nix and got the gun, Raylan has no need to shoot him really. But he does anyhow.
By the way, as I told the other **Justifiedaholics **at work today, if you like Raylan as a character check out more of Elmore Leonard’s stuff that was made into movies. Particularly Hombre where Paul Newman’s character John Russell seems to be 19th century Raylan. Great stuff.
Chili Palmer, Get Shorty and Be Cool, is a great Raylan precursor too.
Got to watch the premier on DVR last night and loved it. I’ve been anxiously waiting for the season to start and it did not disappoint. I also had forgotten some of the events of the finale, and I don’t recall it being a cliffhanger with Raylan being shot, but so much happens in this show it’s easy to forget things. The relationships/banter between the characters is my favorite part of this series. Raylan/Boyd; Raylan/Art; well, heck, Raylan/everyone. My wife and I both realized what’s missing from Hell on Wheels, a show we’re watching, but on the fence about: sense of humor. There’s no hint of humor on that show. Even Deadwood managed to be humorous on occasion (“Fucking Wu…”) Part of what’s so great about Justified is the humor, even if the events are deadly serious.
I don’t know her real name, but the little girl whose dad was killed and dumped in the mine last season is on a new show with Tim Allen. Standard sitcom stuff, but she’s good and I’m glad to see she’s working.
Here’s the Wiki plot summary for last season’s finale (I didn’t remember Raylan getting shot either):
The Crowder and the Bennett clans go to war over control of Harlan. Winona tells Raylan that she’s pregnant. Loretta goes missing and Raylan goes after her, suspecting that she’s trying to avenge her father. Boyd and Mags call a meeting to settle the tension but Mags sets up an ambush on Johnny Crowder’s home and Ava Crowder’s home.
Johnny blows up his house, killing the two assassins. Boyd, aware of the ambush, has all the Bennett hired guns killed except Dickie, who shoots Ava in the chest before escaping. Raylan’s caught by Dickie and hung from a tree as Dickie hits him with a bat in revenge for the limp Raylan gave him. Boyd shows up but Dickie persuades Raylan and Boyd that they need him alive to save Loretta, on her way to Mags.
Raylan and Dickie drive to the Bennett home, where Loretta confronts Mags about the death of her father. When Loretta shoots Mags in the leg, the Bennett forces shoot Raylan in the stomach. Just as Doyle’s about to shoot Raylan, he’s shot in the head by Marshals, whom Art has brought to save Raylan.
Dickie is taken into police custody. Raylan confronts Loretta, who gets Mags to confess to murdering her father. Raylan and Mags then drink her moonshine (Apple Pie), with Mags poisoning herself the same way she killed Loretta’s father. The feud’s settled with a handshake as she dies.
Nice find, AuntiePam, and it makes some sense to my “memory.” If things went as that summary indicates, the amount of pain and/or disability Raylan was suffering wasn’t to the level they’re showing in the “previously on…” clip(s).
I still need to rewatch that Ep13 whenever I can find a free one. The YouTube stuff is blocked or (according to Norton) hazardous.
Raylan was on to his bosses plan, so he was instructed to kill him. If you remember when they first crossed paths getting on the elevator, “Ice Pick” Nicks got a call on his cell and said something like, “what a coincidence” and "do you want me to handle it, " etc. So think it was a matter of, “I’m going to get him before he gets me.”
This is something I’ll never understand – why do the bad guys go after cops? Especially smart bad guys. Kill each other, kill your snitches, kill the random pizza delivery guy – but why go after a cop, especially a fed? Especially one with a reputation like Raylan’s.
If Raylan knows your plan, make another plan. And if Raylan knows your plan, chances are he’s shared it with others, so killing him isn’t going to make things all hunky dory.
Are you sure Nicks didn’t go after Raylan on his own, as a challenge? Like in westerns, when the young kid fresh off the farm goes after Wyatt Earp.
Wow! You thanked the guy that informed you about that actor six hours later than I did in this very thead! Awesome! You’re a fucking moron.
That’s the impression I got: that he wanted to have a “show-down” with Raylan the same way he did with the watch guy.
Sheesh, Morbo, a little tightly wound? So abbeytxs missed a few words at the end of one of your posts. That’s a bit extreme, no? (Not to mention the “not the Pit” part…)
Finally saw the ep on DVR. Excellent all around. So wonderfully Elmore Leonard. And I knew Raylan would outsmart Ice Pick - I mean, the dude’s nickname is “Ice Pick” ferrcrissake, so clearly Raylan had a sense of what was coming - but I didn’t quite know how. Nice touch.
Liked the standoff and solution to it so that Raylan barely had to move (since he barely could move).
Really liked when Raylan told Boyd that of course he was never going to that other back to him, since he is, after all, a lawman. Like the recognition that while he is unconventional (and ends up using his firearm unrealistically often) he isn’t actually a complete loose cannon.
Hello, Morbo? What the hell? Cool your jets, man — “no insults” is the rule. I won’t warn you, but I’m starting to think I’ve been a little lenient lately if people think they can get away with this kind of behavior!
Stop it — stop it now.
Totally deserved, and I apologize. I don’t know what the hell that was about. ::hangs head in shame::