Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

This is interesting. Maybe it is only a publicity stunt but I dunno…Cards Against Humanity has already sued Musk once. They seem committed:

Full Title: Cards Against Humanity offers payouts to new swing-state voters, responding to Musk’s PAC

The company behind the game Cards Against Humanity is aiming to one-up Elon Musk with its plan to pay blue-leaning swing-state residents who make voting plans and agree to publicly condemn Donald Trump.

The company announced an initiative Tuesday to encourage people who didn’t vote in 2020 to go to the polls this year by handing out up to $100.

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“If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put ‘MuskIsDumb@cah.lol’ as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47,” the Cards Against Humanity website said. “If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.”

I love that. You go, CAH!

Above all else hoping for a fast recovery to ALL in Florida. My mother-in-law was not there but owns a condo on a barrier island a bit south of Sarasota and the property damage to the island is horrific.

That said, this is a thread to discuss political impacts. And checking the storm’s path with county by county results from 2016 here, it seems to have hit some of the more densely populated GOP leaning counties hard. Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee, Brevard … Hillsborough (more D) didn’t seem to get damaged as much as Polk (more R). Palm Beach (leans D) saw a few tornados but nothing widespread sounds like.

@flurb you seem to have the most knowledge - just in terms of voter turnout while dealing with critical issues, what’s your take?

(Ignore the NYT poll that places FL way out of reach for the sake of this discussion.)

How much impact does the Trump misinformation have on opinion across the state, even region?

Appreciate the shout out, but I can’t claim any special knowledge or insight on how the particular path of Milton may impact the election. It could depress Republican turnout because it hit largely Republican counties. It could disproportionately impact Democratic turnout if D-leaning constituencies within the region are disproportionately impacted (e.g. poor people dealing with the aftermath may be less likely to prioritize voting than their more well-off neighbors).

The one thing I know is that Ron DeSantis will use every authority available to him (and then some) to ensure that Republican-leaning communities have the chance to vote.

Some information on Helene’s possible voter impact in GA and more so NC.

Cannot yet find any sort of similar analysis for Milton.

I’m curious what legal grounds the Trump campaign will have (think they have) to contest the results in GA and NC if Harris carries those states.

Hopefully they won’t be the tipping point if Harris gets 270+ EVs.

Naturally he’s changed his tune again on voting by mail.

Given the lack of any more well informed opinions I am going to speculate some about hurricanes, Florida, recent poll results, and the election.

I am increasingly almost expecting a surprisingly close result in FL, maybe even an upset. Partly because of the recent polling result.

“Say what?” you ask?

One I think the NYT result is an outlier. Yes it could the correct view, but its model for polling this year may be the mistaken one. And I am also keeping my head in the space of expecting that this year the systemic error favors Harris.

But the perception is increasingly that FL is safe for Trump. And in parts of FL that are not the heavily D Miami-Dade, Pam Beach, and Broward counties, there are other things to think about in hurricane aftermath other than voting, especially given that the election is in the bag. If the presidential election is what is your biggest motivation to vote, that is.

OTOH, there are Democratic leaning voters across the state still highly motivated to get their votes in on the abortion referendum. Inconveniences and other things to worry about be damned. That’s still important to them. And they will disproportionately happen to also vote Harris.

Of course the NYT may have the better model, the systemic error may not favor Harris, and the anti-Choice voters may care more than the pro-choice ones.

Still if I was team Harris I’d be throwing resources into the abortion referendum groups’ coffers, keeping the presidential choice itself low key.

I have said I am hopeful about Florida. Mind you- “possible” not “probable”.

I have noted that abortion and pot are on the ballot, this often brings out stay at homes to vote.

Harris is doing an interview on Fox News this Wednesday, which is sure to drive Trump up the wall.

My first thought is, not really the smartest idea (assuming Fox will creatively edit the footage). But the more I think about it, it’s another plus for her. She can brag that she did an interview in a hostile environment, while Trump was too chicken to do the same. Probably won’t convince any die hard Trumpers but it can be more proof to the “undecideds” about how she’s the better choice.

I may be wrong, but from what I’ve seen, Bret Baier has some concept of being a real journalist, not just a propaganda spewer. He’s still biased and leans conservative, but he isn’t Tucker Carlson or the bulk of the loudmouths at Fox.

Now what Fox does after the interview is a separate matter.

Gotta give Harris credit for at least giving it a shot. More than chicken-shit Trump anyway.

And predictably enough, someone needs his diaper changed;

Walz held his own on Fox just fine. Harris will too.

Baier is the probably the only talking head on Fox that is an actual journalist. I actually don’t mind watching his reports and interviews. Neal Cavuto is also somewhat sane.

Baier’s not the worst of the lot, but he took a hit when texts of his leaked showing that he lobbied Fox to reverse its election night call of Arizona for Biden and to otherwise slow walk calling the election for Biden. Fox has always tried to argue that there’s a divide between their “straight news” and opinion/commentary operations, but in the final equation they’re all going to do whatever gooses their viewership (and advertising income) the most.

As well as what questions Baier may be told to ask, aside from his own.

I can imagine many Fox viewers just sitting this out. Certainly wouldn’t change any of their minds if they did watch, but, if it turns out, say, I dunno 2,500(?) viewers switched their vote, I wouldn’t complain.

I’d like to see a Yamiche Alcindor / Trump i-view.

Yes, I caught a mention of that on wikipedia. Like I said, he is biased - he works at Fox.

One issue of note is that, according to a CBS poll, only 66% of Kamala voters think the economy is good, while 87% of Trump voters think it is bad. So Kamala voters are trailing Trump voters in fervor-of-belief on this. There is an enthusiasm gap on the economy.