Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP

But it’s the Trumpers, especially Vance, attacking Democrats on exactly that issue. “Crazy cat ladies”, “the Dems are all childless people,” “Dems are all anti- family,” etc. So I thing it’s fair game to turn the table. She made it personal.

Michelle Obama famously said, “When they go low, we go high.” Does that really work?

I get not stooping to their level, not giving up your own values. But a hard jab will let them know you’re not a soft target.

I say, “When they go low, their face is easier to kick.”

I started off in the Kelly camp, mostly because he was an astronaut and took up politics after Gabby Giffords was shot. Largely it was name recognition, because I didn’t know any of the others except Buttigieg. But now that I’ve had time to see them in action, I’m all in on Walz. He’s clearly the best orator, the best emotional fit, the best with the branding and crafting of messaging.

And be really plays to the audience that’s somewhat uncomfortable with a Black woman of Asian descent being President. He’s a rural midwestern middle- aged white guy, someone they can take comfort knowing he is their to advise and assist. He’s cost and warm. But he’s someone they can see would be a typical candidate, and someone that isn’t out to get them. Whatever their fears about Harris, they can feel a little more secure knowing that he is so she chose to be her partner.

I’m not talking about the hard MAGA - bigots and outright racists and misogynists. Aggrieved haters and nasty assholes. I’m talking about the centrists who feel abandoned and the folks who have been misled to think Harris is to the left of Lenin. Picking Walz shows that maybe she will listen to their concerns, too.

Kelly is a reluctant politician who came by it by accident. He’s doing a good job in the Senate, but that’s a good place for him.

You are right. I talked about the manly man culture of the Republicans, but I should point out there is a strong element of that premise in our common society. “Be strong, stoic, cool. Don’t show vulnerability.” It’s a cultural aspect of the frontier man, the cowboy, the string leader in control of his emotions so he can focus and respond.

In someone slightly neurodivergent, and really struggled when young to control my emotions. And I, too, was picked on for it.

But being emotional in public should be acceptable. We need to work at that.

That makes sense. It didn’t sound at all like him. I don’t believe he would ever post such a thing.

I doubt there’s a person who watched Tim Walz’s speech who didn’t wish he was their dad, and who didn’t feel exactly the way Gus did. Rather than feel embarrassed, I hope Gus someday realizes how many people wished they were in his family.

And every fuckhead who mocks him is clearly communicating what a fucked-up childhood they had.

I believed it because it sounds like someone who’s absolutely fucking snapped after their kid was attacked like that. But I was fooled.

I wish my dad had been like Walz, but if he was literally my dad, he would have been 13 when I was born, which would be weird. :wink:

But a dad figure as VP would be a great thing to a lot of Americans for sure. I’m struggling to think of a comparison. Joe Biden had a similar amiability that he brought to the role, but that was more of a folksy uncle, the friendly guy you’d run into at a farmer’s market, not a dad figure.

I’m not enough of a historian to go back far enough to find a reasonable comparison to that.

I know.

Yes. When you wrestle with a pig -You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

I have to wonder what role he’s going to play. Visiting recalcitrant Representatives, and explaining, he’s not mad, he’s just disappointed? Visiting disaster areas, and saying, “You see, this is how you repair a hole in your flood walls…”?

But as I noted elsewhere, if you want to slaughter the pig, you’re going to have to get a bit soiled.

We want bacon.

Visiting Arlington National Cemetery and saying, “People are dying to get in here!”

Better than showing up after a hurricane and tossing rolls of paper towels to people whose homes were just destroyed.

AFA that fake response to Coulter from Walz: the difference is that the Walz response was a pretty mild rebuke. If it was the MAGAts criticizing Coulter, they would have said the reason she’s childless is because she wasn’t born female.

I know this isn’t exactly serious, but it at least gives Walz more “Regular Guy” cred.

So it turns out Walz is a gamer! Reports are coming out that he somehow came into a Dreamcast while coaching his football team? I think? I’m a little hazy on some of the details. But apparently he was playing it so much that his wife had to take it away from him. :laughing:

A copy of Crazy Taxi seems to figure into the story. I can almost guarantee you 100% this dude was playing NFL 2K at one point a long time ago. Please know this is a gaming site not a real news source, so please take it with a grain of salt but I had to share this.

Could you imagine Vance sitting down and playing video games with anyone? Much less his non-existent students because he doesn’t care enough about people to actually try to teach the next generation?

I love Tim Walz.

I can certainly imagine him playing Call of Duty against 8-year-olds online while trash-talking them via headset mic.

Very friendly, Minnesota-nice trash-talking. :slight_smile:

I was talking about Vance.

So you were. facepalm Yeah, Vance would be channeling his inner 12-year-old, and not in a good way. :stuck_out_tongue:

I think we have footage of Vance’s shit-talking while playing Fortnight. Would it surprise anyone to know that Vance’s online handle is “noobmaster69?”

Interesting conversation about Walz’ first campaign between Al Franken and Anderson Cooper.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCfq_IlXkQ

Kamala and Tim’s kids are going to be frequent targets of the MAGAts, despite how Barron was actually treated fairly respectfully.

Wasn’t Jimmy Carter’s kid a target too?