Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP

Sincere question from someone who doesn’t remember everything about 2005 anymore and, more importantly, has always been a civilian: irrespective of the optics in 2024, how “accurate” of a summary is that of the contemporary situation? Walz retired in May, 2005. The 125th was mobilized in October and arrived in Iraq in April, 2006. I would have assumed that, as of when he retired, the Guard would have known about it some time beforehand—but maybe not, and maybe even if they had they did not have the time or ability to have his replacement prepared and on-hand as of May.

Was it—or should it have been—clear in early 2005 that his unit was 1. going to be called up in six months and 2. going to be in Iraq within the year (that is—if it is a meaningful distinction—that, when they were mobilized for OEF in 2003–04, they spent that deployment supporting Air Force bases in Europe and not e.g. in Afghanistan)?

I see the descriptor “progressive” used a lot in the comments. Can someone explain what this means in terms of US politics, please?

The criticism of Walz’ (Walz’s?)military service isn’t new. Here’s an article from his run for Congress.

Liberal, especially culturally. In favor of policies that seek to help people who have suffered in some way due to entrenched societal injustices. “Ahead of the curve” in terms of things like LGBTQ rights, marijuana legalization, a nationalized option for health care, trying to slow down climate change, etc.

Nowadays, basically means “on the left half of the Democratic Party”…which means, “on the most politically left quartile of the populace.” Disproportionately (though far from exclusively) younger voters. Many of them voted for Bernie Sanders (or Elizabeth Warren) eight years ago, and needed to be in some sense “catered to” for a Democrat to succeed nationally.

This isn’t really the thread to get into this, but in a very brief nutshell, objectively it refers to policies associated with the kinds of modern social democracies prevalent in civilized countries around the world, notably things like access to health care, social services, and guarantees of personal liberties.

Specific to the context of US Republicans, however, “progressive” is basically a synonym for “traitorous communist”. So when Team Trump and their allies call Walz “progressive” and “radical”, this is what they’re trying to smear him with.

I can see Walz now: “Yeah, you got a problem with those? Talk to me. Yeah you heard me. Talk to me. You got nothing, you chickenshit. Piss off!”

I would really prefer it if everyone used Walz’s (and Harris’s), but Americans got this wrong so early it’s now embedded as acceptable in their grammar rules. Very annoying, makes me squirm. The sole apostrophe after an _s is supposed to be for the plural s only, not just any _s word or name. The only exceptions are Biblical names.

Blah, I’m probably wasting my energy.

Dont’ beat your’self up.

It’s been a while, but this Canadian uses the Chicago Manual of Style, and if I recall it correctly, an apostrophe, and nothing but, after a noun that ends in S, indicates a possessive. Thus, “Harris’ supporters,” is perfectly fine.

“Trump’s supporters” is perfectly fine too. His name does not end in “s,” so the apostrophe is necessary.

I used to teach this stuff at school. As another Doper said about me when we were discussing punctuation and grammar, “Fear this man.”

You wanna nitpick punctuation and grammar? Bring it on.

That’s why I said it’s become acceptable. Doesn’t make it right, though.

No, it’s right. Check your Chicago Manual.

Somehow I never read that poem as an instruction manual.

Seen on the interwebs (quoted from memory):

Moderating: Drop the grammar discussion please.



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There are a lot of reasons people retire from these positions.

Military service became more difficult the older one gets.

I was in the military but only for a short time.

Not going to judge someone’s choices in this area.

I have read that hearing loss was cited as one of the reasons for Walz retiring, and that he has had corrective surgery (stapes replacement, I think) to mitigate it. Obviously I have no idea how much of his decision was based on hearing loss vs a desire not to deploy.

On the other hand, the Trump-supporting right really might not want to raise the issue of avoiding service in wartime due to a minor injury…

Is that possible? The stapes is one of the smallest bones in the body, and to replace it would take a lot.

I’d like to see a cite for this. Not necessarily from @Gyrate, but from anyone who is in the know.

I don’t know about the stapes, but from WaPo:

Googling “Walz Stapes” and the like isn’t turning anything relevant up, though.

Try this article:

So apparently it’s a real thing.

That article makes it sound like he was not allowed to continue serving after that enlistment was up? Does that affect the criticism that he left rather than deploy? Would he have been allowed to deploy if he had a hearing impairment and a clear end-date to his service?