Chill out. There’s an IQ test for state legislator; if you pass it, your name gets stricken from the ballot! :rolleyes:
I’d like to hear what Baker has to say about this, and a few other Kansan Dopers who have been doing their part to keep the state from being Phelpsistan.
…and of course, with my luck, I hit “submit” just as Baker posts her comments. :smack:
20 - 30 years from now this is really going to fuck the US. India and China will be kicking our asses in tech.
Hey, can you tell me which stocks to buy tomorrow? 
How many is dismany? 
Heh. I’m from Wisconsin. One past governor, who went on to become Secretary of Health under Dubya once was quoted as being concerned about the West Nile virus. He stated he’d take rapid action to ensure our state received adequate supplies of “encephalupagus”. We think he meant “vaccine for encephalitis” but noone’s sure to this day.
There’s idiots everywhere. But the Kansas School Board does, at this point, really stand out as exceptional idiots.
I’m sure they’ll be able to get into Oral Roberts University.
As a non-American reading this all I can say is :-
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Encephalupagus is a rare disease of the brain that only snuffelupagai get.
Oh yeah, well I live in Florida! Try to come up with anything stupid from… err, ahhh…never mind.
Point taken, my apologies.
I guess in some ways the Kansas folk who made this decision are themselves evidence against the concept of evolution. Perhaps rather examples of unintelligent design? :smack:
Ha! Just try it, baby. I’m from California! We’re bulletproof, I tells ya! Bulletproof!
Yeah, it’s not like in our last election for governor we had 135 candidates, including every unemployed C-list actor and a porn star or two!
Tell ya what. We’ll stop acting “smarter than thou” when the holy rollers in Kansas (and other places) stop their “holier than thou” crap (yeah, as if). Teaching ID, dissing evolution, redefining science. It’s stupid, capital S-T-U-P-I-D.
Yes. Whether they’ll be good investments or not, though… 
(I recommend warrants for common stock in Answers in Genesis Press, though. They have a hot line of new science textbooks coming out…)
: ducks and runs :
Yup, ya got that right.
Gee. Ya think?
And replaces it with a different one, that has NO scientific value.
Well, maybe, but what about people whose church or temple etc teaches against this re-packaged creationism? There are quite a few religions that have no beef with Darwin or evolution at all, and this move forces such students of those beliefs to have to “learn” this bull shit ID/creationism. Requiring students to swallow one sect’s version of the world (ID or creationism) to the contradiction of their own religion (whatever it is) may be a violation of the Constitution.
“New scientific knowledge has led us to the conclusion that the theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis,” Pope John Paul II stated in 1996.
Father George Coyne of the Vatican Observatory made at least two other multiple-choice references to the deity:
– “The Intelligent Design movement actually belittles God and makes him or her an object of ridicule”
“…the Intelligent Design (ID) movement, while invoking a God of power and might, a designer God, actually belittles God, makes him/her too small and paltry.”
–“It does not make God the great God that he or she is.”
With all this Kansas bashing…and Kansas defending…and so on…aren’t we losing site of the OP’s point? Not just that the school board passed an anti-evolution measure (they’ve done that before) but that they rewote the definition of science!
Or to put it another way they rewrote the definition of science!!!
My lord. If it takes changing the definition in order to skweeze ID in you would think that might tell them something.
Apparently not though. So is it a slippery slope? Well it might be if the idea catches on.
I wonder if that makes my major the “God-ordained calling into the study of the wonders of the Diesel cycle.”
Yes, perhaps we could redefine religion to remove any references to god,
Many people say that there were better times to grow up. Times of more innocent curiosity, times when the world was simpler and less complex. Times when education actually taught the world something.
I hate those times. I find it refreshing, bold, and promising of what may come when a legislator can openly redefine what I’m trying my damndest to be taught. Sure, it doesn’t affect me - I’m several states over, with a completely different legislator. Still, NCLB is as equally lead-based for education as is this bold new step in sawed off puppydom, along with the 20 hours of busy work needed for graduation that directly lines the governments coffers.
When laws are made that fundementally alter my education, on grounds that are quasi-constitutional and moronic at best, I give up hope a little bit more. Even though this will probably be appealed and everything else wrong in education today will someday be universally discarded does not alter my present day reality. There is only so much a citizen can do to change the system, especially a citizen in no voting sense of the word.
For me, I’m most pissed off that the kids most affected are the ones who can’t vote on the people who alter their education. How can this be? Shouldn’t they have a say, ultimately, in what they are taught?
Woe is me.
Was just reading the article about this on CNN and was going to open a thread in here on this. Now I can just vent here.
I think this sums it up:
These folks in Kansas are just militantly stupid. They have been pushing this same BS for years…this is just the latest version. :mad: I just thank the gods I don’t believe in that I don’t live there.
-XT