I laughed at her statement, Theres a bunch of old white guys trying to silence me.
Look in the mirror sweetheart.
You’re pushing sixty and you’re white.
Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.
I just dunno why she had to go there. I’m disappointed. Sometimes people are just mad that you’re doing something shitty.
I did say “supposedly”. 
Dang. Al Franken forgave her and said he’d still appear with her. I was so-so ok with that, but now that she’s just whining about consequences, I hope he cancels.
I know she’s catching hell but I think she’s now having some sort of public mental breakdown.
Shut up Kathy. Shut up and breath. Maybe take a long vacation in Tuvalu.
I’m a fan of Kathy Griffin. I don’t personally have a problem with what she did either.
However, I do think threats toward a seated president are beyond the pale. I think if she had done that to candidate Trump, or Reality TV host Trump, she would have been entitled to her opinion, but threats to the president, whatever kind of dumbshit he might be, are serious. They are also illegal.
I’m torn between being mildly pissed that a comic I like did something stupid, and severely pissed that no one got their bloomers in a snit when similar things were done to Obama or Clinton.
I’m also torn between thinking “tit-for-tat” (in reference to Obama having been burned in effigy, etc.), and my gut reaction to defend to office of president whatever I think of the man seated there.
One thing I’m sure of is that Griffin went too far in her apology. If she really felt she had to apologize, an “OK, I guess that could be construed as threatening the president, and that is against the law. I didn’t see it that way at the time, but I understand now that other people do, and I did not intend it that way. For those who understood it that way, I apologize.” And then never speak of it again.
Sorry if that doesn’t really bring anything new to the discussion. Just getting it off my chest.
I’m tired of people who think that if you are some kind of minority, which probably 95% of Americans can claim minority status in one way or another btw being a woman is a majority group, and something happens to them that those things happened to them because they are a member of some group.
… and Maher just tried to top Griffin by calling himself “a house n***r”.
Shall we get a twofer?
I still don’t care. But i guess a lot of liberals will start eating each other over that too.
That’s the nature of outrage culture. A lot of ‘woke’ peeps (mostly white…mostly) will fall all over each other, stampeding each other to show how ‘progressive’ they are.
At this rate the vitriol of Ken Jennings will make both of them blush.
I’m so progressive and white that I actually think that was a funny joke.
Now, tell me more about what liberals are like… Do they all look the same to you?
I’ve never respected him and never will. Maybe other liberals will finally get a clue what an asshole he is.
But, see, that’s the beauty of my response: why not do something vicious to an image of Kathy Griffin? To the folks who think a visual is a Very Big Deal, doing something vicious to a mere likeness of her is Very Big Deal payback for what she did to a mere likeness of Trump; and, to those who think people are overreacting to a simple visual joke that’s Not A Big Deal, doing it right back is – also Not A Big Deal.
Everybody wins!
+1
Begging the question AND a strawman. Impressive. Most impressive.
I’m completely opposed in my reaction. I didn’t get upset with Griffin, and I didn’t get upset with similar things done to Obama or Clinton.
But it is a good exposition of how a reasonable person who is NOT predisposed to hink ill of her can see that she went for an envelope-push fail.
And yeah, when something like this happens, just say “shit, guess I fucked up, didn’t stop to think, sorry”, take your lumps and keep your head down until the smoke clears. (OTOH a concerted effort to simply blackball her across the board, if it so happens, would itself be an excessive reaction. She made a crass offensive political statement, she is not being accused of a decades long rape spree…)
Well, to paraphrase what I said in another thread a couple of days ago;
When I want to know what Republicans think, I listen to Republicans.
When I want to know what Democrats think, I listen to Democrats.
Republicans like to tell me and other liberals what we think based on what other Republicans told them. You’d think some of them would eventually get the clue that they’re being misled and misinformed, perhaps simply by actually listening to Liberals, but no, the bubble is safer, the anger more comfortable.
Then this completely contradicts your opinion on the death penalty. If killing people is despicable, then it doesn’t matter who the target is.
Or, if that’s too big for you, it holds for your opinion on Chelsea Manning and misgendering her. That is despicable. But you say it’s okay because she’s a horrible person.
There is nothing the same about this. The message here is “Trump is so despicable that I wish he were dead.” This is an opinion a good person can hold. Burning Obama is the message “Obama is so despicable that I wish he were dead.” But Obama is not a bad person, so that message tells me that the person who said it is a bad person.
Yes, both should have the right to do either one. But the person who burns Obama in effigy is doing so to a good man, while the person who burns Trump in effigy is doing so to a bad man. These have completely different meanings.
If you burned Kim Jong Un in effigy, I would not think the same of you if you burned Martin Luther King, Jr. in effigy. They are different.
I never understand this argument. Yes, he’s the president. So what? Our ideal is a classless society. Being president doesn’t make you any better than anyone else. There is nothing sacred about the President, and, in fact, being in authority means he should be subject to more derision, not less.
It’s illegal to threaten ANYONE. Thing is, she didn’t threaten anyone. It was clearly in the context of a joke. And you say it would be okay against anyone else. That means it must be okay against the president.
We went so far to try and get rid of royalty in this country, but people keep wanting to treat the President like the royalty of old. Trump became no more respectable a person by becoming president.
There is nothing special about the office of president when it comes to criticism. His authority only means that he is subject to more criticism.
(I don’t disagree with the part of your post I didn’t quote.)