Katy Perry's PR nightmare.

I must admit I’ll never be able to see Katy in the same way. Who uses their money to bankrupt two nuns? One of them dropped dead in court last week.

Doesn’t matter if she had the legal upperhand.

She’s a celebrity that depends on people buying tickets and purchasing music. Does she really want to be remembered for this heartless act?
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Katy needs to listen to Kenny Rogers.
You’ve got to know when to hold 'em. Know when to fold 'em. Know when to walk away. And know when to run.

Sweetheart you should have been gracious and ran like hell. The court of public opinion is what matters. These elderly nuns just wanted to live out their last days in their home. Couldn’t you have waited a few years to take possession?

The Washington Posts article is more comprehensive. Katy had the legal upperhand.

But, imho most people would show a little decency and compassion in this situation. Or at least pretend too and keep her fans from abandoning her.

The legal system steamrolled over these two elderly nuns. That’s not anything to take pride in. Katy has to live with her actions and face herself in the mirror every day.

I believe strongly in karma. You get back exactly what you put into this world.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/03/10/a-nun-begged-katy-perry-not-to-buy-her-convent-then-collapsed-and-died/

Really old people die. I have an irrational crush on KP. Especially with her new super short haircut. Can’t explain it. If some nuns gotta die,…so be it.

Oooh boy. Nuns, with an oath of service, violated the oath of service to their Archdiocese and remained in occupation of a building for years. They decided that they would not allow the sale of a building that the Church had ordered them to leave because they did not like her music videos, and went and sold it to someone else. The Church took them to court, the nuns lost, and the Church sold it to Katy.

Nuns violated an oath of service, stole a property worth millions and sold it. It’s hard to grow older. The brain makes funny choices.

It’s also hard to see where Katy did anything wrong.

When i saw the headline, I thought it would also be about the 19 year-old contestant on “American Idol” who got creeped out when Katy Perry kissed him. When combined with nun who dropped dead, that adds up to a very bad week of PR for KP.

And KP’s new haircut makes her look like a 45 year-old soccer mom (but at least no one confuses her with Zooey Deschanel anymore).

How can Katy have bankrupted them? I thought nuns took a vow of poverty, thus being pre-bankrupt.

Secondly, their beef is with the Diocese, which sold their home from under them. Their palatial 22,000 square foot, $15 million dollar home. Maybe the diocese thought that’s a bit much for a couple of nuns to be knocking around in, and more humble quarters would suit.

And I thought nuns took a vow of obedience, but I guess it doesn’t count if they really, really don’t wanna.

Also, I don’t think you have to worry about Katy losing her fans, aceplace. R Kelly peed on an underage girl and people still buy his stuff. I think Perry’s gonna be OK.

…that’s what you got from that story?

Pretty much.

You can have legal rights and still feel a moral obligation not to harm defenseless people.

The most obvious solution would have been to worked out an agreement. Let the elderly nuns live in the only home they’ve known for forty years. Take possession after they die.

That’s what I would have done. But, I’m not an important star like Katy Perry.

A cousin of mine did that for my dad’s parents. They were elderly and struggling to get by. He bought the small farm with the condition they could live out their lives there. Grandad died a few years later and grandmother eventually moved to a nursing home.

It worked out great for everyone.

The other buyer wasn’t going to let the nuns stay either. They were going to build a hotel.

Dennis

I’m not sure what could have been worked out. I don’t know enough details.

I only know that I absolutely wouldn’t have gotten involved in a legal battle with two elderly nuns. I rather walk away and lose the money.

I need to sleep at night and want to leave this world a better place than I found it. I don’t want to hurt anybody.

I used to be competitive, but that changes as the years go by. Winning isn’t the end all.

It’s like David vs. Goliath, except if David were in cahoots with a shady developer to steal a $14 million property from its owner.

I’m not sure Katy herself has done anything wrong, but it’s an awful situation. From what I can find, it sounds like the Sisters pooled their money to buy the property from the previous owners and whether the archdiocese had the authority to remove them and sell the property is being disputed. It seems like they’ve been treated pretty poorly in general for a while now and I’m having a hard time blaming Katy Perry for their situation.

I agree the archdiocese could have handled this better.

This dispute seems to go back quite a few years.

Katy stepped into the middle of it.

It looks like the diocese has won. The diocese won the rights to sell the property, and won a further judgment of several million dollars against the developer the nuns were working with, for fraud. The developer then declared bankruptcy, and the nun died while attending the bankruptcy hearing in solidarity with the fraudster.

I wonder how long it will take before dishonest nuns can be treated the same as any other dishonest person.

Not that anyone deserves bad treatment - they don’t - but holding nuns to a lower standard just because they’re nuns is pretty silly IMO.

But somebody does now confuse her with Miley Cyrus. Probably even someone besides me.

I don’t think she’s going to have a PR problem with the nuns, whoever she looks like. I’m not even one of her fans and I think the nuns were in the wrong here.

It was a legal dispute over ownership of property the order the Sisters of the Most Holy had used for over 40 years. The details haven’t been reported. The relationship between the archdiocese and convents is really an internal church matter. I’m surprised it ended this badly.

I wouldn’t characterize any of the parties as being dishonest.

A jury did, though. The developer was found to have acted out of “fraud, malice or oppression.”

I think I need to go to bed, but this story is so much like something I would come up with in a dream, that I’m starting to wonder if I’m already there.

Katy Perry now looks like Miley Cyrus? She bought a house from the Catholic Church, who took it from two elderly nuns, one of whom died in the midst of a court appearance? Yep, this is one of my dreams; it’s exactly weird and random enough. I’m not following the links; I know how my dreams go. The links will just lead to grocery ads for a city I’ve never been to.

If in fact I am actually somehow dreaming while awake and posting this in the waking world, I’m sorry for whatever thread I’m actually posting this in, unless this is actually my blog and I can delete it.

The nuns haven’t lived there since 2011. According to this NPR story, the archdiocese—not Katy Perry—forced them to move out.