Not only are the basic themes of revenge, aging and personal sacrifice timeless, the “Genesis” concept is, if anything, even more resonant today because we have a better idea of how it might actually be done, i.e. the “Genesis wave” that sweeps over the planet isn’t some kind of exotic energy, but a “wave” of fast-replicating nanobots that carve up and re-form the surface in their wake.
Plus the animated demo still looks kind of nifty.
Best Trek movie by a wide margin.
I know that I’m nitpicking but how could the crew of the Reliant fall to Kahn & Co? Why is every other starship in the fleet except the Enterprise a pushover?
Kahn & Co were “genetically engineered supermen, bred to be free of the usual human mental and physical limitations.”
Terrific movie,although I have always loved IV and VI a lot too.
The Kobayashi Maru test.I LOVED the dialogue where Kirk explains tohis whiny pathetic son how he beat the test.
And Kirstie Alley was gorgeous while her replacement,Robin Curtis,was not. And how come a hottie like Kim Cattrall was so unappealing in VI?
On the DVD commentary they talk on how word leaked out that Spock would die. So they had the opening scene where he is “killed” in Saavik’s test to try to make the audience think “okay, this is what those Spock dies rumours were about, it’s just a test”
The Captain and Chekov were already under Khan’s control (he bugged them) - they called to the ship and had a number of crew beamed down, then beamed up and bugged the needed engineering crew. If memory of the novelization is correct, the majority of the Reliants crew was left on the surface of Ceti Alpha 5.
I’m pretty sure “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven” is spoken there somewhere…does Scotty ask Kirk about it?
Actually, that is stated by Captain Terrell in the film.
Don’t be dissing Robin Curtis. I have a picture of me and her from 1993 and I’m doing the “raised fingers behind the head” bit to her, with a Vulcan salute.
I blame the haircut they gave her. (Or was that a wig?)
I like the button that made the rounds at science fiction conventions years later –
Not tonight, Checkhov…I have an earache
That is actually Data establishing a PIN - presumably that long so that no one but him could possibly undo it.
I believe that she is Mister like Spock was Mister Spock. The second in command is called Mister. She was second in command to Captain Spock. The Enterprise was a training vessel. Others may have the same rank but calling him or her mister shows their rank on this ship. Like Mister Roberts.
I’m only inferring this from movies and such I am not a naval officer nor do I play one on tv. the bedroom…
[btw, my ringtone is the five tones from CE3K]
Actually the CGI in the Genesis proposal was some sort of movie first.
But Kirk has addressed other officers using the term “mister.” And, depending on how it was said, it could actually be used derogatorily.
In the Navy, and presumably Starfleet, it’s always used by a superior officer addressing a subordinate officer, never the other way around, so naturally it can be used as a sign of superiority, like how Saavik addresses Sulu during the Kobayashi Maru test.
Does that also apply to women?
Jesus, how many ignore lists am I on?
Spock addresses her as “Mr. Saavik.”
Who said that?
-Joe
That would be Lt. Riley some time after his debut of “I’ll take you home again, Kathleen.” failed miserably.