God, I am getting so fucking tired of how whiney and “victimized” the babies in america today are.
This guy’s kid didn’t make the cheerleading squad, so he’s bringing in lawyers.
I hate to say it, but my generation is bringing up a brood of overly-sensitive, undisciplined group of selfish overprotected brats who will be ill-prepared to survive in the real world.
well, maybe not MY generation… but close to it. i don’t have nor do i want kids, but dammit if i ever failed at something, my parents would not go into a frenzy calling their nearest attorney… they’d tell me to suck it up, learn from it, and try harder next time.
sorry for the rant, but this guy makes me ill. The link:
Idiocy such as this makes me fear for our future. These kids will never be able to function in the real world when they are brought up all their lives by coddling ambulence-chasing parents. This asshole can die and burn in hell for all i care, and his prescious cheerleader daughter, while a victim of his idiocy, might best be served by being teased by a few high-school idiots, lest she think that when she leaves the womb that not everyone will coddle her and bring in expensive lawyers on her behalf.
I truly feel sorry for her… and i blame the mush-head parents for screwing her up for life.
The city in question, Vestavia Hills, is only a few miles from where I live. It’s one of the “rich” suburbs of Birmingham, Ala.
I’m pretty sure that when I was a senior in high school, the senior class sponsor intentionally kept me out of the Senior Hall of Fame in our yearbook. If this guy has some success in his lawsuit, I may think about suing my old school. Is the statute of limitations on something like this longer than 17 years, do you think?
I can understand wanting to help your kids, but this is just pathetic. Local morning radio shows are having a field day with this story.
Well, if the allegations named in the lawsuit are true, then the case is very valid and is not just people complaining. That article you linked has next to no facts in it, and isn’t a very good source.
If you’re saying that Americans are babies and that we’re whiney, well I have a major problem with such a generalization.
You might want to revise your statement to something like, “I’m fucking tired of all the Americans that bitch and moan and act like shits over stupid fucking reasons”, then yes, I have no problem with this.
Actually, this is probably an example of the Law’s civilizing effect on society. The last time that some kid not making the cheerleading squad made the news, it was because her mom put out a hit on the kid (or mother of the kid) who did make the squad.
I live about two hours from Vestavia Hills. A mother in MY town is probably going to sue my high school because her daughter didn’t make the majorette squad.
I think that’s absolutely stupid, but she might have grounds for it.
according to the newstory (admittedly only the dad’s version), there were a couple of significant points (the fact she was a cheerleader elsewhere and had been coached by a pro is immaterial IMHO, but
so the judges were selected by some of the parents, and some of the participants were allowed to practice and coach the exact tryout routine while others weren’t. that does seem unfair, and inherently so.
As far as parent suing on behalf of their child - :shrug; I’m not a fan of lawsuits in general, but you can be assured that when I felt the school mishandled situations with my son, they heard about it. Heads rolled when a security officer commented “he’ll live” when I pointed out the fist sized lump on my son’s face (caused by another student).
(and on preview, **Finagle ** has an excellent point.
I was a theatre major in college and I was purposely not cast in a show because a director decided I ‘would have enough chances later’ even though I was the best for the part.
Did I sue anyone, even though acting was supposed to be my career? no.
CHEERLEADING, while it may look good on a resume (why I don’t know), isn’t going to make or break your future.
I’m no cheerleading fan (my SO and I have a long standing jokefest about them), my defense isn’t linked to the ‘cheerleading’ aspect.
let’s take your background in theater - if the tryouts for the play allowed some of the students, but not all, to **study and practice ** scenes from the show, that wouldn’t be a level playing field, now would it?
My son tried out this spring for a show. He’s seen the show itself performed as well as movie version enough that he already knew many of the lines. He didn’t even get called back for the next level. He was very angry and disappointed and all that, said the reason given was ‘his characterization of the part didn’t match the drama coach’s vision’. Frankly I think it’s crap and it’s more likely that A. She remembers back to two years ago when he was cast in the spring and dropped out the first week of rehersals, and B. seems convinced that he’ll still help out on crew, where he’s very helpful since he’s tall, strong, and has artistic talents.
I did not tell him my opinion, I did not call the school on his behalf, nor would I sue. However, if the case were that without his prior history of dropping out of the production, other kids were allowed to look at the material and he wasn’t, I’d have pitched quite a ruckus.
The issue isn’t cheerleading, it’s fairness. yes, the world isn’t always fair, however, certain institutions (such as schools) are required to offer equal opportunity and it doesn’t seem to have been done in this case.
That’s my point wring. Pitching a ruckus is fine. I bitched for days about the unfair treatment, and made sure that everyone in the theatre department heard about it.
I didn’t sue people…because in the end…a million dollars or whatever isn’t going to get me the part in the play, and five years from now…IT ISN’T GOING TO MATTER.
My aunt had a catheter tube accidentally LEFT IN HER BODY after surgery and it attached itself to her spine and grew tumors. THAT’S A LAWSUIT.
Not being picked for something, no matter how unfairly, is not.
Ok, - well I’d already said that ‘lawsuits’ weren’t my favorite pasttime (my dad spent some 7 years suing the home owners association where he lives 'cause they ‘didn’t follow their internal rules about spending $$ on road repair’ :rolleyes: , also before he left for Florida spent some 6 years getting back at a real estate salesman who failed to refund his escrow account promptly)
I guess we don’t know what other methods were attempted first. In the case of the security guard at the school, I’d gone to the school board and the next morning her supervisor was in her face. Had that not worked, I’m sure I’d have moved up the food chain.
anyhow, as Finagle pointed out, the lawsuit was a whole lot better than the “Famous Cheerleading Murdering Mom” episode. (tho the latter made for one fine movie and another so so one)
Just remember that there are a certain number of people in this world who have been able to get their way by lying or by intimidation, or both. I know nothing about the Alabama cheerleader mess, but I do know that a lawsuit is the ultimate socially tolerated intimidation.
Also, it is an axiom among lawyers that if it were not for stupidity, greed and lust there would not be much law work.
Is anyone else disturbed by the “It’s better than murder” defense of this lawsuit? Have we really sunk so low that lawsuits for unimportant issues are now be regarded as defensible because they prevent murder? The sick bitch in the cheerleader murder case was just that: A sick bitch, not an justification for frivilous litigation.
Every school district has some venue for reviewing complaints about the treatment of students. If that’s been done, then try mediation. Lawsuits might be appropriate for a school district failing to follow their own resolution/mediation proceedures, but going straight for the big guns is more than a little over the top.
get a grip please. the ‘it’s better than murder’ comment is not intended (at least by me) to say that the alternatives are murder or lawsuits. cripes.
and, you don’t know if the parent involved didn’t fail to follow resolution or mediation procedures first, as I noted above.
I just fail to see what the big deal is about this - why the outrage? Here’s a parent, concerned about his child, felt that they were not treated fairly and is using a legal means of addressing that wrong. We don’t know for a fact if this was his first attempt, we don’t know for a fact that this was the first complaint the school had, either.
Personally, I wouldn’t put lawsuit out there first, but OTOH, I’ll not guarentee that I’d never institute a lawsuit on my kid’s behalf. and, frankly, for all the threads about parents not taking care of their children (and gasp even laughing in front of them - that one was for you jarbabyj ), why all this furvor over a parent maybe caring a bit too much?
“hey, kid, I know you’re disappointed, hurt etc, and that the school acted in an unfair and improper manner, but hell, them’s the breaks, toughen up, suck it up and move on, I don’t want to offend anyone by actually standing up for you publicly”
I wholeheartedly agree. I don’t even understand the whole enigmatic underworld of High School Color Guard/Marching Band. Apparently it’s pretty cliquish and political, according to my Mom. If you ask me, it’s a totally useless and fruitless endeavor (nevermind expensive). I don’t know what “skills” twirling a flag develops.
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I never did any of that crap - I had two jobs. I profited with my time.
Regardless of whether this is an unjustified lawsuit, I would just like to point out that the girl is likely to never again be selected for ANYTHING during her high school career.
I hate to argue with you 'cause I deeply respect your mind machine, but jarbaby??? Just LOOK at the careers of Vanna White and Richard Simmons. I mean, Cheerleading was a seminal turning point in their lives !!!
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( who has just insulted everyone, yet is still grinning. What’s WITH that? )
), why all this furvor over a parent maybe caring a bit too much?