One point bothered me a little – where does Budd live? When Bill and Budd are speaking about O-Ren, Bill asks about Budd’s swordplay. Budd says that he sold his Hattori Hamzo sword. Bill remarks that it was priceless, and Budd answers that in El Paso, its worth about $250.
There are a few other references IIRC to Budd being in El Paso. The scenery around his house is consistent with it. When he buries Beatrix alive, he tells Elle that it is a “Texas funeral.”
But when Elle phones Bill, she says that if he ever wants to visit her, she is buried in Stockton, California, in a cemetary under the name “Paula Schwartz.” I suppose he could have sold his sword after the ambush at the wedding in El Paso, and then moved to California, but I’m not sure if this is ever made clear.
Also, is loading a shotgun with rock salt common? Why not just use buckshot and kill someone dead?
It’s not uncommon. As Otto said, he wanted to hurt her but definitely not kill her, and rock salt would do the trick.
The UL was that many marijuana “ranchers” in NoCAL used to load up with rock salt back in the day to keep kids from pilfering their fields. It would give them a bad scare and a hell of an owie. Nowadays they probably just shoot 'em.
Yeah, Barstow. I remembered because when I heard him say it I started thinking of Fear and Loathing.
“We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert…”
My bad. I know he didn’t sell the sword, just told his brother that he did probably to piss him off.
So much of the movie revolved around El Paso that I assumed he hadn’t moved from there after he said that he had sold his sword. It was just jarring to hear the California line and it was bothering me.
Thanks for clearing that up. Loved the movie, BTW.
I don’t think Budd was LIVING in El Paso. I think the idea is that, after the massacre at the wedding chapel in El Paso, Budd felt so guilty about what he’d done that he hocked his sword at the first place he could find, and gave up the life of an assassin. He was so disgusted by and ashamed of what he’d done, he was willing to take on a demeaning, crappy job as a bouncer in a strip club and live in squalor rather than go back to his old profession.
Even though it turned out later that he’d lied about hocking the sword, I think this theory still holds.
I agree with astorian. I just watched Kill Bill Vols. 1 and 2 back to back earlier this morning… watching him take shit from the titty bar owner … the first thought that came to mind was, “This must be his idea of penance.”
But damned if his old instincts didn’t kick in when Kiddo came gunning for him.
Hey - I’ve been shot at with rock salt. This was back when kids were just as vandalous as today, but less likely to have guns of their own, so non-lethal loads were common.
An even nastier treat was rock salt, quicklime and lard. The lard made it harder to wash the lime out of the wound.
Forgive my ignorance, but I am not a gun owner, so-- how exactly do you load a shot gun with rock salt, quicklime and lard? I assumed you could buy rock salt shotgun shells but – the rest?
Take out the pellets out of the tube and replace them with whatever you like (bath oil beads would be kinda neat). Or you can just leave the tube empty and shoot someone at close range with a hot was of guncotton. I’ve been shot with that too. It really smarts! Or, if it hits you too close and in the temple, it can kill you.
I don’t know if this is what you’re referring to, but actor Jon-Erik Hexum accidentally killed himself this way. While working on the set of the spy show “Cover Up”, he put a .44 magnum loaded with blanks to his head and fired. The motivation for doing so, and what he said as he did it changes depending upon who’s telling the story.
The wadding drove a skull fragment into his brain, and the gasses escaping from the barrel furthere severely damaged it, resulting in his death.
How does rock salt NOT kill you? It’s still pretty hard and being propelled by a shotgun blast. Does it just desintegrate when it hits you instead of puncturing as deep or something?
I’m with msmith537 on this one. The Bride’s name, at least, the stupid lod beep over her name, and then all of a sudden, there it is? I thought Vol 1 was a big QT orgy of self love. My wife convinced me that, yeah it might be, but it was really crazy over the top fun. Vol 2, was a big plodding mess. My god, thaose two films might have made one ok movie, but all the slow panning shots, the “build up”, the “suspense”, oh, god the music! Maybe when the Director’s cut comes out, I’ll give it another try, when it’s re-editted, unless he adds more footage in which case I’ll kill myself.
I know next to nothing about firearms, but if I had to guess I would guess that chunks of rock salt are larger than shot pellets, and also have irregular surfaces, so they aren’t going to travel as fast as smaller regularly-shaped pellets. I would also guess that salt is less dense than lead so the same force that would allow shot to penetrate skin and travel deeper into the body isn’t going to be enough to drive in the salt to the same depth.
I’m not sure how big rock salt is, but I do know enough to say that shotgun ammunition spreads at difference rates, inversely proportional to the size of the pellets.
For example, 00 Buckshot will take the longest time to spread and remain as a solid mass for a longer time after leaving the barrel. Birdshot will spread in a much quicker fashion(and lessing the effective range). Rock salt, if it truely is just grains, will spread quickly, be of small size, thus stinging but not having any real penetrating power.
