Kill me please...

Well, it’s official- life sucks.
People close to me treat me like shit, especially when
I am doing nice things for them in secret. It kind of
ruins the whole experience and makes me wish that I could
retract the gesture. Maybe it’s better that I can’t…
Let them feel like shit when they realize how
shitty they were.
On the other hand, what irks me is a non-issue for them,
so fuck it- I still get fucked over in the end.
I just love how easily people take me for granted.
It would be great to just direct my flying brain matter at
their faces while getting my recommended intake of lead. The looks on their faces would be priceless! Fuckers. Too bad I’d never get to see…

Well, at least Maryjane can console me… :wink:

Oh, and a big “fuck you, cockface” to Dubya.
Actually, make that to all politicians.

Thanks, I’m done.

Maybe you should stop doing stuff for shitty people. No need to waste your brain on them.

Nisan:
Don’t do it. There are better options.

Stop doing nice things for ungrateful people! Screw 'em! Find new friends and associates. There is no use to waste your brain on people who will never understand what your whole point was anyway. They’ll never get it, they’re beyond getting it. So any drastic gesture on your part would be utterly pointless.

Hey all-

Thanks for the sound advice!

But just to clear things up…
In my mind, the world around me is
interpreted as one big funny cartoon…
(Rather like “The Itchy and Scratchy Show” on
the Simpsons…)
So, any thoughts that could be categorized
as ‘drastic’ are COMPLETELY cartoonish!
(Itchy and Scratchy theme song plays in the background…)
The tone of my complaint was meant to
be humorous, not desperate…

I am just fed up with people, not life.

Thanks for your replies, though!

Have a great weekend, and get outside.

Take a lesson from my experiences (someone has to), escapism isn’t the answer.

Again-

Thank you, soulmurk, but I tend to lay “it” on
pretty thickly…

And your lesson is a good lesson for any of us
to learn…you are absolutely right. The use of
substances to “escape” is never the answer.

So, ya want a drag? :rolleyes:

Oh, irony! I’ve heard of that!

Hey, it was late, I wasn’t sure if you were kidding or being a Drama Queen or what (although the Dubya line shoulda been a hint), and on the small chance there was a bit of real desperation behind your post, I didn’t want to let it go unsaid. Like you said, we all need to get out and blow out the jets. Have a great weekend!

Drag, Nisan — that’s a joke, right?:wink:

:wink:

Nisan, hope it all clears up, and I’m with you on the cartoon bit these days.

Nisan . . .

Not to sound overly serious, but for the benefit of those of us who take people sounding slightly suicidal somewhat seriously, could you perhaps not post things like "It would be great to just direct my flying brain matter at their faces while getting my recommended intake of lead. The looks on their faces would be priceless! Fuckers. Too bad I’d never get to see… " and then saying you were joking? Some of us, who’ve been there and come frighteningly close to doing that, kinda sometimes take these things seriously.

Yeah, maybe we need to lighten up. And maybe posting something that looks like you’re thinking about killing yourself and then saying you’re joking isn’t really the best way to do things around here, where we don’t really know you well and we rely only on the printed word.

Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it and still have glimpses from time to time.

Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck.

Scars are emotional. None physical from considering suicide.

Most of y’all probably knew that, but I just wanted to clarify.

Nisan, I’m sure you didn’t think of it in this light when you wrote your post. So I mean no disrespect in your general direction. But I’ve been considering writing a pit post for awhile now about people who “joke” about suicide. I lost a lover to suicide last year. And now I’m very sensitive to people’s comments such as, “I think I’ll just fling myself out a window,” or “shoot me now.” I sort of wish people would think a bit before saying such things.

I received the suicide note about 20 minutes too late to do anything about it. I’m sure you can imagine what a horrible experience this was for me.

-L

Yeah, baby. :cool:

Cartooniverse

Well folks, believe it or not, I myself have suffered the loss of a loved one to suicide. I witnessed the act itself. So, for those of you who have recently posted a response about losing loved ones to suicide and not appreciating jokes about it, believe me, I understand your position. However, this is my process for dealing with things. If nothing else, I’ve learned that humor is among the most powerful of [healing] forces on this planet. Without humor, how can any of us ever face the grim situtations in life? I know I couldn’t.
A close friend of mine made a nearly successful suicide attempt, only to be rescued in the nick of time by his wife. He jokes constantly about suicide, saying things like,“Hey Nisan, could you pass me that knife over there, I can’t take this anymore.” Is he wrong for saying things like this? Of course not- that’s his emotional process. That’s how he deals with life. So, I won’t apologize, nor will I make promises about my future postings.

HOWEVER,

SexyWriter- I am VERY sorry for your loss, and I know the horror of bearing witness while a loved one self-destructs. Certainly, casual jokes about suicide can be hurtful, and someone who has just lost a lover to suicide so recently is highly sensitized to such comments. But that doesn’t mean that those people making the jokes haven’t had similar personal experiences. I am truly a caring and sensitive person; it is this morbid sarcasm that enables me to move past these experiences in life so that I may continue to empathize with others. I was merely venting in my “normal” fashion.
Inevitably, anything that any of us ever say, (or write), in mixed company will offend someone. There is no way around this. Even being politically correct is offensive. Only by sharing perspectives and placing potentially offensive comments in context can we ever hope to understand why and how someone could “…say something like that.”
I hope that my perspective is clear, and that those of you who found my post objectionable have a clarified understanding of the context in which I was writing.

I would posit to you, Nisan, that in your 17 posts you hve not given the SDMB community much chance to grasp what exactly constitutes your normal venting fashion. I hope you’re not surprised but instead comforted by those who have reached out to you and those who have requested you not use language insinuating you’re going to kill yourself until we maybe know you a little better.

Being able to joke about something does signify that you’ve moved past it. But when people don’t know you, that joke can appear mighty serious.

Your perspective is clear. I hope ours is as well.

Well, iampunha, fair enough…maybe folks don’t know my “normal venting fashion”, in fact it’s unlikely that they do. And, certainly the fact that the words written in my whopping umpteen posts, (under this particular alias), are stripped of all cues aural and visual, (invaluable indicators during face-to-face conversation).
However, does this lack of familiarity preclude the ability of like-minded cynics to sense the “…wah, I’m a big needy sarcastic crybaby, pay attention to me…” tone in my post? Surely it doesn’t.
Of course, the “oh jeez, I can’t take it…” tone was never excluded as a possibility either.
These boards are loaded with humor, sarcasm, angst and downright cruelty at times. Mine is but another post in an expanding sea of free expression by a bunch of folks who should probably be doing something productive, but decided to take a break from the monotony of being.

I’m curious- in your thousands of posts, (and apparently multitudinous breaks from your life), iampunha, when exactly was it that you were voted spokesperson of all SDMB members?

PS- Yes, it was comforting to see that some responses were in the vein of genuine concern.

“And, certainly the fact that the words written in my whopping umpteen posts, (under this particular alias)”

From The SDMB Registration Page:

“Only one screen name is permitted per user. If you wish to change screen names please notify the webmaster and we will deactivate your old screen name. Use of multiple screen names is grounds for revocation of your right to post under ANY screen name.”

“However, does this lack of familiarity preclude the ability of like-minded cynics to sense the “…wah, I’m a big needy sarcastic crybaby, pay attention to me…” tone in my post?”

Some of us tend to take people seriously if we’ve no reason not to. Having been, as I’ve said previously, to the edge and back, I tend to take seriously those who say they are there. Sometimes a little respect can go a long way.

By “I hope ours is as well” I meant SexyWriter and myself, not the SDMB in general, if that’s what you’re talking about.

If it’s not, then what?

Just to wrap things up, iampunha:

And as far as policy goes, you are making the mistaken assumption that I am somehow in violation of the T.O.S. agreement,(ie- that I have not “played by the rules”). You should avoid making such assumptions.

Besides, hounding me about policy, (when it’s not your place to do so), takes the thread way, way off-topic. So if you feel the need to “flame” me personally, I suggest you send me an email, (it would not be viewed as an intrusion so long as your approach is relatively peaceful in nature).

I can’t help but feel that you are “marking your territory” in your posts [to me] thus far. I’ll remind you that discussion boards are open forums with no palpable boundaries; so why set them when you can simply skip over the thread or the comment if it doesn’t suit you?

Also your implication that I lack respect is baseless.
“Different strokes for different folks”; your general dislike of my comments doesn’t mean that my comments are necessarily disrespectful- my mode of expression may just be outside of your “norms”.

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By “I hope ours is as well” I meant SexyWriter and myself, not the SDMB in general, if that’s what you’re talking about.
If it’s not, then what?
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Yep, that’s what I was talking about, but that you were speaking for two rather than the entire SDMB was unclear at the time. However, I believe that SexyWriter’s point was better left in its own context rather than lumped together with yours, (for clarity’s sake).

I’ll restate, for you, iampunha, that very often, the most sarcastic, cynical, and darkly humorous comments are made by those who have been “to the edge and back”. So, it is not likely that one fitting this profile has a vested interest in being disrespectful or hurtful. It just boils down to perspective. I wouldn’t encourage anyone to compromise their position on a matter- although, I would support them in their efforts to see other vistas. I believe that I’ve made a genuine effort to reveal my position in a clear, respectful manner. If you feel otherwise, email me.

Thanks!

“And as far as policy goes, you are making the mistaken assumption that I am somehow in violation of the T.O.S. agreement,(ie- that I have not “played by the rules”). You should avoid making such assumptions.”

I assumed nothing. I saw something odd and wanted to make sure you knew. Evidently you do. However, posting “And, certainly the fact that the words written in my whopping umpteen posts, (under this particular alias)” sounds an awful lot like “This is my 15th post under this username”, meaning that person’s using more than one. I didn’t assume it to mean this was the case, I just wanted to make sure, for clarity’s sake, that this wasn’t the case for you.

Perhaps that should have been in email, true. I’ve posted things before that I later wishes I had emailed. However, I’ve had success posting and I didn’t want to stray from something that had been successful.

“Besides, hounding me about policy, (when it’s not your place to do so), takes the thread way, way off-topic. So if you feel the need to “flame” me personally, I suggest you send me an email, (it would not be viewed as an intrusion so long as your approach is relatively peaceful in nature).”

If you see that as a flame, Nisan, I’d recommending hi-tailing your behind and all attached parts to MPSIMS or IMHO, or perhaps a gentler board. That was in no way a flame. If you want to get flamed, just be an ass and people will come along soon enough.

And I fail to see how citing one paragraph from the SDMB TOS is hounding you. You said something odd, I posted that paragraph. Perhaps our definitions of hounding are different?

“I can’t help but feel that you are “marking your territory” in your posts [to me] thus far. I’ll remind you that discussion boards are open forums with no palpable boundaries; so why set them when you can simply skip over the thread or the comment if it doesn’t suit you?”

I’m being firm. I stand by what I believe. And as for the “open forums with no palpable boundaries”, that may be true on other boards, but that’s not true here. There are definite rules and boundaries; for example, see the forum descriptions. See the SDMB TOS.

“Also your implication that I lack respect is baseless.”

I don’t see where I imply anything of the sort. I’m simply stating what’s been the case for me thus far. I freely admit there are differences among people, but I stand by what I’ve said.

““Different strokes for different folks”; your general dislike of my comments doesn’t mean that my comments are necessarily disrespectful- my mode of expression may just be outside of your “norms”.”

I again don’t see where I’ve been disrespectful. Looking over my posts in this thread I’ve been assertive . . . there are people here who would call me on it if I were undeservingly being an ass. And I don’t dislike most of your comments so much as I think there are differing and valid opinions here and that posting something on the line of “I’m going to kill myself” when you haven’t been here for a while isn’t really the best way to make friends or influence people. Come to think of it, posting “I’m going to kill myself” enough times will make a lot of people ignore you. It’s sort of like crying wolf.

“Yep, that’s what I was talking about, but that you were speaking for two rather than the entire SDMB was unclear at the time. However, I believe that SexyWriter’s point was better left in its own context rather than lumped together with yours, (for clarity’s sake).”

And I wasn’t lumping them together in any way other than to say that they were both perspectives. I should possibly have used “are” instead of “is”, but again I was referring to the fact that they are perspectives differeing from yours.

“I’ll restate, for you, iampunha, that very often, the most sarcastic, cynical, and darkly humorous comments are made by those who have been “to the edge and back”.”

Yes, and of those comments which have had those qualities and been well-received, the vast majority have, in my 9+ months here, been from vets. We know when they’re saying “I really, truly want to hurt myself” and when they’re joking. With someone who hasn’t been here a while and who we don’t know, we can’t tell as easily.

“So, it is not likely that one fitting this profile has a vested interest in being disrespectful or hurtful.”

But when we don’t know the person who is posting sarcasticm, cynical and darkly humorous comments, we don’t know that they aren’t being serious. And, as I’ve stated before, I for one don’t assume they aren’t. I take this particular shit seriously. I value human life. Go figure:)

“I believe that I’ve made a genuine effort to reveal my position in a clear, respectful manner. If you feel otherwise, email me.”

I appreciate the clarity you’ve used and the fact that, though this is in the pit, things have stayed relatively calm. I hope you see the clarity and respectfulness with which I’ve tried to write my posts and that you’ll be around long enough for even me to know that you’re just joking when you say you’re going to kill yourself:)