I see what you did there…
Oh don’t go explaining it to him, that ruins the joke honey. Trust me, I know what I’m talking about when it comes to these matters. I’m a man.
That’s kind of what I got as the take home. In fact, it’s a bit more absurd: Ladies, you can trust us to make life and death decisions for you (ex., if you are in a coma at a hospital), but when it comes to pictures of your girlie parts, all bets are off.
swoooon
Paris Hilton has been making these type speeches for years:
To repeat myself:
How is it “baseless?” You did actually say that you feel surreptitiously taping your sexual encounters to provide yourself with a defense against false rape accusations would be a completely prudent thing to do. Why not own it?
I said that it would be just as reasonable as treating every man as a “potential rapist”, to demonstrate how extreme that position is.
Wouldn’t help. The spiteful ex put up cropped pictures, as well. Then he added her facebook portrait of her face and her full name and e-mail adress to the pictures.
Man: Ladies, don’t stick you hand into the fire, it’s hot!
Women’s Temperance Union: How dare you shame us for sticking our hand into the fire! We have every right as a human being to stick our hand into the fire and NOT be shamed for it. And if we want to complain because we get burnt, Well, you better offer a shoulder for us to cry on, because if you don’t, you’re just encouraging another generation of rape-y men. When will you men ever learn?
This thread is so full of win.
On one hand, we have men saying that women shouldn’t trust their current lovers/husbands/boyfriends, because they may turn out to scum and post private and personal information after the break-up (if ithappens). So women shouldn’t trust a man they are supposed to trust (and viceversa).
On the other, men are getting pissy because women do not trust or care for the feelings of stranger men on the internet. Men who have no reason to have their trust (and viceversa).
It wouldn’t be as bad if there’s no proof that the pictures are actually you. Besides, if someone is that determined and they DON’T have naked pics of you, they could probably just use faceless pics of someone else (unless you have distinctive tattoos or an extra toe or something).
I feel really bad for this woman and obviously he had no right to do what he did no matter what…but just out of curiosity I wonder why he hates her so much.
Would it be okay for me a take a private picture to share with my gynecologist, say to document a transient symptom? If he then put that on porn sites along with my personal information and mailed those pictures to people I know, would he be absolute scum?
I’m guess yes, So the problem here is not about taking pictures, it’s about sex. specifically, it’s about the idea that sluts should be expect to be shamed (and a “slut” could be someone taking mildly kinky photos with her husband.)
Yes, we’ve heard it before. We shouldn’t take photos if we don’t expect them to be put on the internet and mailed to our bosses along with our name, address and work info. If we don’t want to get raped, we shouldn’t be alone with men, outside of the house at night, or in the day in a bad area. If we don’t want to get catcalled and harassed, we shouldn’t walk around possessing tits, etc.
Super good point. Fire and people: the same.
Does it matter? Does anyone deserve to be set up to have employers, potential employers, and creepy strangers who get off on the humiliation of others see those pics and obtain her address? What could she have possibly done to deserve the loss of her job, lifelong fear and humiliation?
This is brilliant! Kudos, colander!
Yah, thanks, we got it. Can’t trust men. Gotcha. I imagine you’ll be ostracized by the MRAs for this,but hey, can’t tell whose team you’re on anyway. It’d be nice to hear from more men who actually like women and sex though.
Even Sven, so it’s 100% black and white with zero personal responsibility?
I mean, I can go into a rough bar, mind my own business drink quietly, provide no offense, and have some asshole decide to kick my ass. I shouldn’t be subjected to assault and battery in that bar, but shit happens. And that bar has a reputation for shit happening. I could have had that quiet beer somewhere else or even skipped it altogether and no worries. Not my fault, but I am somewhat culpable, showed poor judgement, hopelessly naïve, had a brainfart or some combination of the preceeding enabled the situation. To my mind, I therefore have*some *responsibility with getting my ass kicked. Doesn’t exonerate the guy that kicked my ass one iota. The common response from my buddies would be “what the fuck were you thinking going there alone, you were asking for trouble and we’re not surprised you got your ass kicked.”
Would you agree in the above scenario that I had some sort of responsibility?
Not all of them, no.
Well, speaking as someone rather fond of both, how about “don’t do stupid stuff because you might regret it later”.
Regards,
Shodan
So trusting a man you care deeply about, love or even marry with nude pics or videos means you deserve public humiliation, ostracism, and potential violence if things go sour? Like I said, we got it. Only porn stars and whores should share intimate pics. The typical woman should only have sex in the dark for the purpose of procreation.
Would you like the world better if women took pictures of themselves for your enjoyment, or if they didn’t?
If a woman were sleeping with you, could she trust you not to put those pictures on the internet? If she couldn’t, why would it be a good idea to sleep with you in the first place? Would you accept as reasonable the conclusion that, well, if she can’t be sure you won’t post the pictures on the internet down the road, then she can’t be sure you aren’t a terrible person, so she shouldn’t be sleeping with you in the first place, and she can’t be sure that you won’t post the pictures (see e.g. the thread title); therefore, she shouldn’t be sleeping with you?
More to the point, is it OK with you if I call the woman who is sleeping with you an idiot because she trusts you, because other women shouldn’t have in retrospect trusted other men they trusted? Is this all heading in a direction that you feel good about?