That’s the best way I can think of putting it. Lovely.
Uhhhh! Oh man, I accidentally came when looking at Sue’s pic… It was too much for me…
I apologize for that last post… Sorry.
No disrespect? Could have fooled me.
When someone cleans my teeth or drills cavaties, they wear rubber gloves, safety glasses and masks to prevent the transfer of bodily fluids yet dancers aren’t allowed to be grossed out by someone getting cum on them? RIIIiiiiiiGHT!
And, as I alluded to, dancing is NOT prostitution. If a man ejaculates, even “accidentally” you are treading a thin line morally and legally. There has to be a line there and I think that ejaculation crosses it.
What do I expect? Well, though I never danced bottomless, even if I had, I would have expected courtesy, tact and the adherance to the bar rules. Maybe you and your “friends” should try it.
And FWIW, if you’ll reread my post, you’l find that I didn’t call the ejaculators sickos. Kindly don’t twist my words.
For gay men there is something called ‘teabagging’ which is a lot of fun but you need a gay guy dancer.
I don’t think that films deplict lap dances well. Lots of times by law, they aren’t allowed to touch the customer or they have to stay a certain number of feet from them. If the guy pulls out his penis & comes on her then she must inform the bouncer & he comes (no, I don’t mean that) & gets the guy.
Handy, handy…how do you do it?
The thread is about whether a lap dance customer ejaculates in his pants and whether that makes him a creepo or not.
I’d say that unzipping and masturbating on the lap dancer puts the idiot squarely in the creepo category. No debate necessary.
Also, issues of touching or not touching vary from state to state, just as the issues of nudity/pasties/topless/full panties and bra vary from state to state. In re male dancers, in Pennsylvania, they cannot completely disrobe. In DC, they can get completely naked but you can’t touch them (other than to tip). In Minnesota, dancers in a bar can’t get completely naked, but dancers in a strip club can (or could as of roughly 1996).
And not addressing to handy here, but to bughunter…
Why is it assumed that just because the woman will go so far (legally, mind you), that it’s expected that she go further than that (usually illegally)? Because it’s still acceptable in some circles for men to consider themselves entitled to get off by the efforts of a beautiful woman, regardless of her wishes or job description? While I’m all for legalization of prostitution (for both sexes), even if it does happen dancers will be one profession and prostitutes another. Dancers are not prostitutes. At least not in any official capacity as a dancer…what an individual dancer might do after hours is pretty much her call.
jayjay
Um, actually you did:
actually, my reading of that line, is that she’s calling those of us in this audience who’d have noticed the pun ‘no dancer will come near you’ sickos, but in a nice way.
YMMV.
Wring is correct.
And I meant Sickos in the nicest, most loving way possible.
I can’t be the only one wondering this, but what the heck happened to all the links on the people pages?
I’ve been curious about this for a while now, but I never saw it addressed or talked about.
A little help please?
Cnote, IIRC, Geocities lost most of the pictures. Shayna’s been trying to restore them, but it’s quite an undertaking.
Just thought I’d chime in, as I’ve just done a good bit of field research this past weekend… 
It was my bachelor party, and yes, I had my share of “dances”.
And to be honest, no big thrill. And no “movement” of the the most personal nature.
I certainly can’t speak for all males, but this sort of situation just doesn’t get me that turned on. Nice eye candy? Sure. A rare, fun outing with the guys? Certainly.
Something that’s going to bring me to orgasm in public, sitting next to my friends?
Not bloody likely.
I do not understand this concept.
Guys want blue balls? They like to be teased to the brink, then have to go elsewhere to finish the job themselves? This is worth money to them?
See, when I am present during a porn photo shoot, it’s my job. And though I get some pleasure out of it occasionally, there’s no tactile stuff going on, and it’s a byproduct, not my actual goal during the event.
But to go to a strip joint (ugh) and be publicly sexually teased for money - it does not make sense to me.
Not that that matters, I guess, it’s clearly big business. But still.
Thanks Audrey.
In terms of the O.P.-
I’m with Guanoland one-hundred percent on this one (With the notable exception that I’m not on porno shoots as a part of my normal days activities).
For the life of me, I can’t understand the appeal of these places.
Your not about to get laid by these babes (Well, maybe at some if you’re willing to fork over some big-time bucks. If you do, of course, you have to live with the idea that you’re so undesirable and skanky that you actually need to pay women to screw around with you.)
I’ve never understood it.
I’ve been ridiculed by my friends for not finding the same enjoyment in these places as they do. I think they’ve even questioned my manhood over this issue from time to time, “What’s wrong with you? Naked woman all over the place. Fuckin’-A Chris”. “Whatever, guys. Actually get somewhere with them, or even one of them, and then I might be impressed. Until then, I think it’s pretty pathetic.”
The whole idea of it is goofy. Guys gather around together with people they’d wouldn’t caught dead talking to or even acknowledging outside of this place, and pay some women who want even less to do with them then the guys do, and watching them get naked. And that’s it- Nada more. No action, no nothing.
- And a big NO to those that want to either whip it out or get off when a gal lap dances for them. I may not be a regular, or even a person into the whole scene, but I know enough to know that it’s a big no-no. I think even putting a condom on before venturing out to one these places is goof-bally.
What in the world is the point?
I don’t want to get all cranked up like that unless I know I’m taking care of business afterwards. Believe me, when it’s one on one with a gal that you like and she likes you -Lord have mercy- it can be one of the most erotic things ever.
It’s the kind of erotic you don’t pay for- it’s mutual.
I even have friends who find the ‘cool’ thing to do at these clubs is to ignore the dancers and act as though they’re at a normal bar.
Huh- say it again- HUH!?!
You want to pay an exorbitant cover charge, drink exceptionally poor cocktails at exceptionally high prices, and then ignore the visuals around you?
Strange.
Give me the tried and trued. Give me a night at a nice bar, some attractive women, a challenge, and I’ll do my best. Sometimes I’ll strike out, sometimes I’ll score. Whatever may come of the night, I’ll have fun regardless, and I won’t feel cheap and oddly used when I wake up the next morning.
Damn it, GuanoLad, where do I send my resume?
Sure jayjay, laws vary, no surprise there:
St. Petersburg Times:
"city’s lap dancing ordinance, which prevents dancers and customers from being within 6 feet of one another. "
http://www.sptimes.com/News/021801/Hillsborough/Six_arrested__charged.shtml
That seems kinda strict.
Sometimes if the dancers get real close you can smell them:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=55684
Having one’s teeth drilled is (for the great majority of people) not a pleasant experience. Only an exceptional few would classify it as entertaining or pleasant. Though I did know a woman who wanted to jump her dentist’s bones every time she was under the influence of laughing gas… but I digress.
I imagine that lap dancing can be classified as both entertaining and pleasant (sorry, never indulged). But in fact it is not simply pleasant and entertaining as say a movie, concert, play or gourmet dinner but in a uniquely sexually arousing way.
A dentist dawns his protective gear not merely for his protection but for the protection of the patient as well. The dancer takes off all/most protective layers for the benefit of the patron(s). He/she then proceeds to (where permited by law) to entice, rub and stimulate the patron as long as the money keeps exchanging hands. The goals for these two participants are simple. The dancer expects financial rewards while the patron expects physical/visual gratification.
The dentist knows that if he drills too deep or when he cuts into soft tissue, blood will be drawn and he is equiped and prepared for that eventuality.
The dancer ought to expect that if he/she does her job very well that there is a chance that the patron may become sufficiently stimulated and achieve orgasm. The dancer has to make a decision whether or not the flow of money warrants the potential outcome (pardon the pun). The dancer cannot know (every time) if the patron has a high or low threshold to the sexual stimulation that is being metted out. But, the dancer ought to know that this is the risk of the job. If the dancer feels that he/she will be grossed out by touching a wet spot then he/she probably shouldn’t perform lap dances but stick to stripping.
How so? Is there a law that prohibits premature ejaculation or low tollerance to sexual stimuli?
Here you have a point. You have a right to expect a certain amount of discretion from the patrons. Also, your physical safety should not be compromised.
Thank you, QuickSilver. Exactly my point.
Sue, my allusion to dentistry had nothing to do with blood or prophylaxis. I was attempting to use irony and contrast to indicate that what a lap dancer is doing for her customer is pleasureable. Period. Any other inferences drawn from that analogy are red herrings.
And since it seems to have become personal, please accept my apology. I was a bit too emphatic, but I assure you my point was academic. I’ve never been lap-danced to a climax, and except for ones I may get at home from lady bug, I never will. And I certainly don’t want to worry about the residues of other guys who have…
And to jayjay you’re confusing my example of my friends who go to clubs where it is thinly disquised prostitution with the unintentional “hair-trigger” type of incident in more legitimate places.
The Playboy Advisor addressed this (sorry, no cite, my recollection- about a year ago). His advice is - yeah, both parties should know that the fella may go off, and, if you think it’ll happen to you - wrap it up.
IMHO, you might think it’s creepy for someone to ejaculate during a lap dance - that’s understandable. I’m sure that if you shared a few of your favorite ejaculatory moments with the rest of us, someone would certainly think you’re creepy too. Notice that folks tend to think these circumstances are , well, rather private.
Diff’rent strokes …
(the weirdest guy I ever saw at a strip club actually reached out, jammed a can of shaving cream and a razor down the girls g-string, then made a beeline out the door. Now, I thought that was creepy.)
I will tell you, if you don’t cum at the club I go to, something is wrong with you. Those girls ride you like there’s no tomorrow. It’s all I can do to make it through one dance. If they aren’t trying like hell to get me to cum, I don’t know what they’re doing. Happens every time. I wear a condom now to avoid the mess.