reply to Mahaloth:
Was she first woman to win the event she won?
Yes*
Was it(forgive repeats from earlier)
Tennis?
Croquet?
Any card game? Bridge?
Golf? Yes.
Equestrian or anything horse related?
Sailing?
Shooting of any kind?
Swimming or anything water related?
Fighting(martial arts, boxing, etc.)?
Field hockey?
No to all others.
* I think she was the first person to win this particular golf tournament. Her Mom came in 7th.
OK, so some time back in the 1800s, a woman named Margaret entered a golf tournament in response to an ad, and won it, the first woman to win that particular tournament, and she was eventually posthumously recognized for that. There’s obviously something else we need to figure out, or you’d have declared this one closed.
Did she defeat men in the tournament?
Did something unusual happen in the tournament that enabled her to win (for instance, several top golfers boycotting it)?
Was the tournament notable in itself, for reasons other than who won it (for instance, the first time that tournament was held, or the first one at that particular course)?
Has a woman ever won that tournament since?
Strange. France is not really into golf much. I can’t think of any even vaguely golf
related events that occur in France today [1].
So was it in the olympic games ?
(And I wouldn’t call golf athletic !)
Not literally ↩︎
Miniature Golf?
Just sayin’ … what’s the likelihood that a young woman and an older woman would come in 1st and 7th in regular golf tournament in the 19th Century, when golf was a pretty male centric sport?
reply to Chronos:
OK, so some time back in the 1800s, a woman named Margaret entered a golf tournament in response to an ad, and won it, the first woman to win that particular tournament, and she was eventually posthumously recognized for that. There’s obviously something else we need to figure out, or you’d have declared this one closed.
Yes. Why would winning a fairly obscure 19th century French golf tournament get Margaret a wiki page and recognition 63 years after death by the NYT? Margaret would have wondered this too. Figure out the reason and this one will be closed.
Did she defeat men in the tournament? No.
Did something unusual happen in the tournament that enabled her to win (for instance, several top golfers boycotting it)? No.
Was the tournament notable in itself, for reasons other than who won it (for instance, the first time that tournament was held, or the first one at that particular course)? Yes.
Has a woman ever won that tournament since? Yes.
reply to pjd:
Strange. France is not really into golf much. I can’t think of any even vaguely golf
related events that occur in France today .
So was it in the olympic games ? Yes!
(And I wouldn’t call golf athletic !)
reply to Cheesesteak:
Miniature Golf?
No.
Just sayin’ … what’s the likelihood that a young woman and an older woman would come in 1st and 7th in regular golf tournament in the 19th Century, when golf was a pretty male centric sport?
First female Olympic medalist?
reply to Mahaloth:
First female Olympic medalist?
Close.
Gah, the 1900 Paris Olympics!
Stupid “the 19th Century includes the year 1900” trickery tripped me up yet again. I discarded the Paris Olympics as being in the wrong century…
Yes! I am going to go ahead and call this solved. Way to go pjd for guessing the Olympics!
Margaret is the first American woman to ever win an Official Olympic competition. And she never even knew it.
She never knew her golf win was an Olympic win. Instead of a gold medal she got a porcelain bowl. She and her mother are the only parent/child to compete in the same modern Olympic event.
Her wiki page is a fascinating read.
Another good link,
Speaking of women who didn’t realize something: since it seems that nobody else is going to offer something up, I’d like to bump the thread with a memorable morning from my college days:
One morning I entered a classroom, and my fellow classmates didn’t say anything to me; I’m guessing it was because it was pretty early, and the bleary-eyed college students had other things on their minds. The point is, it of course didn’t bother me, sure as the professor also didn’t seem to see anything troubling about it. Anyway, eventually another of our classmates entered the classroom, and none of us said anything to her — and that didn’t seem to bother her, either. But the professor’s eyes went wide, and he remarked that he hadn’t realized we were so ruthless.
I had nothing against her, and didn’t want to make things worse for her — and, as far as I know, my classmates felt the same. So: what explains the professor’s remark?
Did the professor’s remark refer to the fact that no one had greeted her, or to something else?
Had she been out of class for some reason, and this was her first day back?
To the fact that none of us said anything to her.
As far as I know, she and I had both been there the last time class had been in session, and the time before that, and the time before that.
Is the subject of the class relevant?
How about the makeup of the students in the class?
was the class small enough, or intimate enough, that the students were knowledgeable about who the other students were? For example, a 400 person lecture hall where no one knows anyone else is one thing, but a 10 person class where the people are known to each other is different.
Did the student have a recent tragedy or bad event happen to them that was known about?
Or possibly a good event that would warrant some recognition and acknowledgement/congratulations…like a wedding, or having a baby (she was visibly pregnant before but not now)? or she wasn’t wearing a leg cast…something like that.
I don’t believe the subject was relevant, but it was a Poli Sci class on international law. I don’t think the makeup of the students was relevant, either.
15-20 students, so maybe a little bigger than what you have in mind, but maybe it’s what you have in mind — only, no, nothing tragic or worthy of congratulations, which I guess makes the amount of knownness irrelevant.