Law and ORder SVU 23 November 04

Can someone spoil the last 20 minutes for me?
Thanks.

All you really need to know is that the trial boiled down to he said/she said, and when the jury came back with the verdict, the foreman said “We find the defendant…” and that was it. They left you hanging, like “The Lady or the Tiger.” Viewers were invited to visit the NBC website and vote for whether they thought the professor was guilty, innocent, or there wasn’t enough evidence. In other words, ratings gimmick/writer’s copout.

Yeah, except in the trial the teacher admitted to putting the marks on the girls body but only because she asked him to. She could have been setting him up or he could have forced himself on her. I’m not sure when the verdict will be publicised.

These are the results of the polling so far;

Was the professor (Billy Campbell) guilty or innocent?
Guilty
18%
Innocent
66%
Need more evidence
16%

I figure I would post this question here instead of start a new thread. It’s sort of outdated, though:

Was ADA Alex Cabot fired? Did they ever have an episode where she was fired or left? Last night I saw the repeat where she has Benson and Stabler search a home without a warrent to stop a serial-child molester and gets into heaps of trouble.

And can I just say how pissed-off that non-ending made me? :mad: While it’s true that I was sitting there being glad that I didn’t have to be on the jury for that case, I still wanted to know how the jury voted. Frankly, I was surprised they didn’t end up hung.

Man that non-verdict ticked me off, too. But I am glad that I wasn’t on that jury.

She seemed somewhat unbalanced and untrustworthy and he seemed a bit too composed and smarmy. Yet he also had no history of this type of thing and she had a history of being somewhat unstable. I think it was heading toward an innocent verdict because it seemed to mostly be a he said/she said type thing and if they had a reasonable doubt they would likely find in favor of the defendent.

Unfortunately they neglected to add the fourth catagory:

Won’t bother to watch series with cheap gimmicks again
x%

My guess is x>10%

She was not fired. There’s an episode where she left. It’s worth seeing spoiler-free.

Would you happen to know the episode name or the season?

Season 5, Episode 4. “Loss.” That’s the season available on DVD if you’re in the states, or USA rotates through it probably every two months or so.

Just a note:

They did this on an episode of Law and Order: Criminal Intent, too–they had an online poll to see whether a series villain would live or die. The villain lived (:mad:)

I thought it was a cheap gimmick, even back then.

Or a fifth:

If I ain’t getting a SAG card out of this, I ain’t voting! :wink:

There’s my vote!

So, what would your verdict be?

I vote not guilty.

Wait, is the “Need More Evidence” really a category? If so, then the verdict would have to be “not guilty” because the evidence as it stands is not adequate to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the guy did it. So the DA didn’t meet the burden of proof. Unpleasant though both characters may be, if you way the actual evidence and there is not enough to support his guilt, then you have to say “not guilty”. (Remember “not guilty” does NOT mean “innocent”, it just means that the burden of proof wasn’t met.)

So I’m voting “not guilty.”

Didn’t see the show.

Thanks everyone - I fell asleep before the end.

The 18% who voted “guilty” don’t understand U.S. jurisprudence.

Not only did the existing case not rise to the level of “beyond a reasonable doubt”, I don’t think it rose to the level of “preponderance of evidence”.

That would be my humble opinion, of course. :wink: