Learn how to pronounce, "President" Bush

FWIW, Steve: One thing I find irritating (to the point of teeth-grinding) is the so-called misuse of ‘myself’ when one obviously means ‘me.’ :smiley: But that’s just a broadening of the meaning of the reflexive pronoun, so I really shouldn’t let it ruin my dental work!

You may indeed be right. Alas, I’m sure we’ll never know.

This usage is rife in Ireland. It annoys myself too, but myself has got used to it.

Tisn’t: 'nju:klI@ (where @ is a schwa). The k sound begins the second syllable.

You can start worrying if you start using “I and I”. :stuck_out_tongue:

jr8: You pronounce it nyu - clear? & folks are griping about Bush’s?!

The stress is different, too, in the two words pronounced in isolation … but I’m dubious, still. Saying that “there is a phonotactic rule in Bush’s dialect which prohibits the ‘-cl-’ combination in the very specific circumstances applying in the context of the word ‘nuclear’” just strikes me as a long-winded version of “Bush pronounces ‘nuclear’ a funny way” … I’d be more inclined to credit the phonotactic explanation if we could turn up another word which is affected the same way. (Which shouldn’t be impossible, if this is the case - the man’s every slip of the tongue and verbal gaffe is published on the Internet within hours of him making it, there’s got to be enough material out there to write a definitive textbook of Bush’s dialect.)

jr8: I multitask - I can be neurotic and non-rhotic at the same time …

I hope you’re not insinuating the dyslexia and ignorance go hand in hand. If so my father and I would have to disagree. I find Bush’s pronunciations endearing, not retarded. I come from a well educated family who are well aware of proper pronunciations, but tend use the accent they were raised with. They use it not because they are stupid, but because it is a apart of who they are.

mighty_maxx: It is kind of amusing to note that the folks griping about Bush’s “incorrect” usage of the langauge also are evidencing some “incorrect” usage themselves. In other words: we all speak differently. As Coldfire indicated above, dismissing his policies out of hand because one doesn’t like his speech patterns isn’t exactly a smart choice.

BTW, mystic: I was under the impression that bush doesn’t drink alcohol.

Did you vote for Nader? If so, shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Anyone who voted for Nader and helped split the Democratic vote is at least partially responsible for putting that buffoon in office, so, again, shut up.

Using quotes out of spite makes you look like a petty jerk, and if you don’t want to argue about it, then don’t post in the Pit, Jackson. Like it or not, our flawed system (and every single one of you idiots who voted for Nader) put Bush in the White House and he is the legitimate president.

Although after watching Michael Radfords’s masterful film adaptation of George Orwell’s dystopian classic, 1984 last night, I can’t help but wonder if George Bush can clearly pronounce the three principles of IngSoc. The idea of permanent warfare against an ever-shifting enemy to serve as a focus for the masses’ discontent sure looks like our foreign policy these days. “War is peace” indeed!

Be seeing you in the Ministry of Love.

If you don’t like it you can take it up with the Concise Oxford Dictionary (ninth ed.), which was my source for that.

Go to the m-w.com site.
Search for larynx.
Click on the audio clip.
You will very clearly hear it say ‘lare-inx’, not ‘lare-nix’.

And ‘nyu-clear’, though a bit inflected, is the proper pronounciation of nuclear. You kind of glide the first syllable together.

No one’s dismissing Bush’s policies out of hand because he mispronounces a word. It just makes him sound uninformed. It’d be like him announcing an education plan that included more funding to ‘li-berries’.

How’s that going, by the way? Any progress? :stuck_out_tongue:

All you’re doing, jr8, is proving that different regions (especially those separated by the vast expanse of an ocean) have different pronunciations.

Just to clarify (in case there’s any doubt), “nyoo” is how people with English accents pronounce “New” and the first syllable in “Nuclear”. I think this is consistent with US (and GWB’s) prounciation too.

Ummm, Monty? I believe that back on the last page I asked if you could hook me up to a dictionary site that does use the phonetic alphabet. I also believe that I was reasonably respectful in my question. If the answer is, “No, I can’t,” there’s no need to be shy about saying so.

If you can, however, I would very much appreciate you doing so.

Is the “you” sound in “nyook-you-ler” really a “you” sound, or is it really a glottal stop? It seems to me that what could have happened is that “nuclear” could have come to have been pronounced “nyook-ler”, the “lear” blending together, and then, with a hard k sound before, the glottal stop would just introduce itself.

Doubtful. I don’t think the dialect in question has glottal stops in its phonetic inventory (can a Texan confirm this?). Rather, it seems as though speakers insert a diphthong to balance out the word based on some phonological rule–a la Monty’s phonotactics.

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kaylasdad99, I’ve never come across a dictionary that uses IPA. I think that as the lexicographers have been around longer than the IPA, inertia has left us with the numerous transcription techniques. However, I too would very much appreciate someone knowing different posting a link.
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If you guys don’t stop bitching about that stupid word, myself is gonna rip my larenix out and nyook the living shit out of all you bastards with it.

Monty

“So, getting back to larngks what we’re dealing with at the end is the velar nasal followed by the voiceless velar stop which is in turn followed by the voiceless alveolar fricative.”

Owwwwwwwww… my head hurts…

I have a proposal. . .let’s substitute the good old-fashioned 50s sci-fi word, “atomic”, and then delete “nuclear” from the language so that we can throttle this petty pedantry.