Your misfortune is due to your bad choices.
My misfortune is due to circumstances beyond my control.
And now they’re canceling one of their own for daring to be outspoken about getting vaccinated. Death cult, indeed.
Daniel Darling, an evangelical author and the spokesman for NRB (National Religious Broadcasters), spoke out this month about his decision to get the COVID-19 vaccine in an op-ed in USA Today and a segment on MSNBC.
NRB, which calls itself the largest association of Christian communicators, has more than 1,100 members working in Christian radio, TV, and other media. Part of the group’s purpose, it says, is to advocate for the “free speech rights of our members.”
In the aftermath of Darling’s firing, some evangelicals raised concerns that NRB was defying its own stances around free speech and anti-censorship, or that it was aligning with conservative radio pundits at the expense of a leader like Darling.
NRB is backpedaling now, but sounds to me like he got fired for straying too far off the reservation …
Why is a supposed “Christian” organization against life saving medicine? What possibly scriptural reason can they possibly have?
Are they also against other Western medicines? Against cancer treatment? Stents for heart disease? Asthma medication?
Or are they simply overt political organizations now?
I received an e-mail from a pastor acquaintance of mine late last week that read in part:
The virus has a 99.6 percent survival rate, you drive a vehicle and are far more likely to harm or kill someone driving than being unvaccinated, where is your outrage against drivers??
He then continued that he never spoke either for or against masks or vaccines (although his pontificating leaves no doubt which choices he has made and which choices he as the senior pastor finds most ideal), I accept people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated. Even in the way he phrases this argument makes me think it is a talking point created to skirt the Johnson Amendment (and I have heard him use the exact same language about a dozen or so times).
In his case, I am pretty certain he is a purely political entity (they don’t even take a collection- they do have a donation box in the foyer but rarely is anyone seen dropping anything into it) and I think because it is a large influential church they are at least partly funded by the Heritage Foundation or some similar organization.
He has also told me not to contact him ever again unless I change my tune, to not even reply to the e-mail. It seems he does not want anyone around who may suggest to others that he might not be completely sincere and above board in matters of faith. He told me the church and himself have no need for “virtue signaling” which is how he characterized my questions (which were pretty similar to yours). He is a very charming hypocrite, I do have to give him that (until you disagree with him).
Their whataboutism arguments are so fucking stupid that anyone with half a brain can pick them apart in 2 seconds.
If we had a one-time solution so that car crashes wouldn’t kill you, something that took 15 minutes like taking a vaccine and had pretty much no downsides, would you not do that thing? Or would you say “I’m not going to take the thing that makes me not able to die in car crashes because heart attacks more kill people”?
Seriously. The closest things we have to a vaccine against car crashes are seatbelts and airbags, and guess what? They’re mandatory!
Look, if we’re not going to let them make false analogies, they won’t be able to make any analogies! Won’t someone think of the fallacies?!?
Getting back to the OP:
The idea that liberals were deliberately trying to kill conservatives by saying “wear masks! get vaxxed!” is obviously inane and totally false.
That being said, though, just as a thought experiment:
Suppose that you were a liberal president, agency director, or whatnot and it was indeed your secret goal to get as many Republicans killed as possible. What method could you use (with words alone) that could possibly be more effective at doing so than what Fauci and the Dems did?
Not tell them to get vaccinated. Then the same group of pig-ignorant conservatives would complain they weren’t being told what they needed to be told to survive.
I have a stubborn son. If you don’t tell him to do certain things (that are in his own interests) he doesn’t do them. If you do he tells you he won’t do them because you’re “forcing” him to. Shrug.
The phraseology you use (“what Fauci and the Dems did”) is bizarre in itself. Neither have done anything political at all. Fauci is a non-partisan civil servant. The government (which as it happens has since the start of this year been headed by a Dem) has done what any government would do in this situation which is urge the populace (in an entirely non-politically aligned way) to get vaccinated.
That a certain political group has chosen to treat this as political is nobody’s fault but theirs. The only political thing that has been "done’ is by idiotic conservatives to themselves.
If you were hosting a party at which there were A’s and B’s (and you are an A) and you offered everyone food, but B’s wouldn’t eat because you had offered it, and then blamed you even more for their hunger because (like any good host) you’d urged them to eat, would it be reasonable to say you had “done” this to them?
It’s beyond bizarre.
Where are you getting 28%? Your cite does not say that. My cite says 39% is fully vaccinated in NYC. BTW, only 59% of whites are fully vaccinated in NYC?
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-vaccines.page#nyc
Why are you picking out NY for your point anyway? And why are you not bothering to mention that minorities have started vaccinating at a higher rate in recent months?
I’ll repost what others have posted so that we’re all clear on the actual data.
Not that he’ll listen, but just a quick data point.
Mortality statistics for 2020
Motor Vehicle deaths 38,680
Covid deaths 377,883
So about a 10 fold difference.
Well, they could do what the InfoWars crowd have actually done, which is just lie their asses off about it. “We genetically engineered the fetal-tissue derived Spikey Proteins to target “Christian DNA”, so as to alter their hormonal balance and turn them all into Gay Transsexual Frogs with inappropriate gender pronouns, who like to drive Priuses to the Whole Foods store so they can pay too much for soy products from CHY-na!”
Nothing they did was nearly as effective as what Trump and the Southern governors did, but if I had to do more, I’d recruit some people to claim they are true blue conservatives and have them start posting the same crap the right is posting now.
So the Republicans have saved the Dems all kinds of money.
Thank you for this, I believe I will bother to inform him about these numbers and about this fact:
With this detail added:
As Buck says, he isn’t going to listen but I believe it is my duty to inform him he is full of shit anyway. Maybe someday the horse will learn to sing?
They underestimate my malice toward them. I wouldn’t object to the vaccinated [America-hating fuckstick] voters being dead as well.
And this from the party of (alleged) personal responsibility…
To me it is SenorBeef’s point that is the killer.
The mortality statistics are no doubt correct but somewhat happenstance. The point about seat belts and airbags is of course correct but I suspect your pastor friend will say that such measures shouldn’t be mandatory, even if they are.
However, there is no denying the fundamentally stupid illogic of saying that one shouldn’t bother taking a readily available and “costless” precaution against a risk, merely because there are other greater risks.
Life is a game of pragmatism: you do what you can. It is completely irrelevant that there are things which – could you do them – would be even better, but which you can’t do.
What’s your current tune? The Camptown Races? Maybe try him out with Stars Fell On Alabama…
Can a Protestant pastor pontificate? 
Band name! Are we still doing “band name”?