Nah; the Border Patrol would make a poor private army for any dictator wanna-be. They’re more like the army: an obstacle to tyranny, not an avenue for it.
If the a-hole in chief wanted a private army, he’d have to do it via “citizens’ militias” and KKK cadres, not via sworn officers.
To anyone who calls it a war on religion, I’ll demand, “Woodcut or it didn’t happen.”
It looks like some lawyers are going to file a “contempt of court” (or something similar) against the CBP for refusing to obey court orders.
But even if the CBP is found in contempt of court, who will enforce it?
Would the judicial ask the police/army to force the CBP to comply? But the police/army are part of the executive branch, so likely follow orders from the head of the executive branch, i.e. Trump.
Would the police/army side with the judiciary or with the executive branch?
Interesting and scary times.
Federal marshals are attached to and take their orders from the Judicial branch, not the executive.
Getting a bit of the frog-in-a-pot feel from all this. How much more indignation would this have generated toward a given leader, the suddenness and extremity of this EO, if we had no exposure to Trump before this?
I understand the EO makes good drama, and is probably a calculated display of strength, and helps reinforce Trump’s dominance, but aren’t we kind of throwing an important American value under the bus here? We are an immigrant nation. Or is that inconvenient right now in light of these blue-moon threats (our “safety”)?
Watch and wait folks, this is just prelude–this is leading up to direct U.S. action in the Middle East, and it’s going to raise the same if not greater level of alarm and indignation.
That’s actually a scary thought because it means that someone, somewhere in this administration is Thinking. And thinking in a destructively conniving way.
That’s one of the scariest thoughts about a possible Pence presidency. He is capable of thought and planning. Trump just urps everything out and clearly doesn’t know the meaning of an unexpressed thought. He’s a bull in a China shop. I think Pence, a card-carrying bigot, would be less blunder and bluster than Trump, and more measured, calculating, and effective.
The Democrats are going to attempt to legislate this away. Is that possible???
I don’t know. In what way are Democrats trying to “legislate this away”?
Approximately 200 senior officials at State have signed a formal “dissent memo”, crititicising the executive travel ban order, saying that it “stands in opposition to the core American and constitutional values that we, as federal employees, took an oath to uphold”.
It’s going to be The Night Of The Short Fingers.
Well, they’re getting fired. I have to admire them for being able to put their jobs on the line. Hopefully, they have no difficulty finding new work. My only concern is that all this chaos is exactly what Bannon wants.
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Trump supporters are eating this stuff up. He doesn’t give a shit what these folks say or do. If he fires them all, his support among the base will skyrocket.
Read here. Not much detail offered. I just don’t see how Congress can tell the president what to do in this instance.
Under the rules, they can’t be fired for submitting a “dissent memo.”
Of course, that was in the Olden Days… two weeks ago. :rolleyes: I’m sure there’s a way around the rule. Like firing them for parking illegally or littering or something.
Or just ignoring the rules because he thinks he’s the CEO of AmericaCorp now. After all, the CBP were ignoring the injunction stopping the detainment.
The number of signers is over a thousand now, according to the New York Times. I would hope that the White House might reconsider when that many seasoned, experienced foreign service officers express a contrary opinion.