Elsewhere I suggested a concoction of bleach and gravel may be useful (on the that basis bleach kills germs, and rocks are natural). I expect my clinical trial to go along the lines of:
recruit a random population
exclude anyone with known aversion to bleach / rocks/ bleach-rock combo
deliver daily doses
omit those who died in process or were hospitalised
categorise the remainder as having been treated, and hint it is more than would have survived without the treatment (but without doing the actual numbers)
persuade a journal to print a sketchy write-up, and we can deal with the gaps in my analysis later, because people are DYING!!!
gain the support of a national leader who:
has no scientific background
is actively anti-scientific on many matters
is by some accounts barely capable of grasping, let alone reading a complex brief that does not place him centrally in the narrative
has it all ‘up here’ [mime tapping forehead]
is captive to people and interests that make him look like Albert Schweitzer-Einstein by comparison
feeds lines, and is in turn fed them back by media interests so he can say its what ‘the people’ want
and desperately wants to pull a rabbit out of the hat that will play well in his constituency later in the year, and would gain perverse please in proving the egg-heads and the ‘so-called scientists’ wrong compared to home-spun vernacular wisdom.
give it to message board pundits who still, deep down, think the epidemic is over-blown and a bad thing that happens to people who vape.
I was just thinking about good old Dr. Cardillo, and wondering how he might be profiting from the miracle cure he invented.
It looks like his chain of clinics -the one he is CEO of - is offering in home Flu-COVID testing. If you are sick and have $195 bucks (they don’t take insurance for this one) they will send some to your house to test you for flu and COVID. Our you can get a telemedicine visit for $50.
Although they don’t say this, I’m willing to bet that Cardildo is offering up the Trump miracle pills and that is driving their business. And he’s trying to make sure people know it by going on the news. Always follow the money.
I’d never heard of “Trump pills” so I Googled. Google thinks that “Trump pills” are orange-colored double-dose MDMA (‘Ecstacy’) tablets with Donald Trump’s likeness, sold in 2019.
Whether correct or not, one can find claims like 2015’s “The macrolide antibiotic azithromycin has antiviral properties in human bronchial epithelial cell.” This drug interferes with protein synthesis, has been used against the malaria parasite, and MIGHT be useful against viruses (though obviously not yet proven useful enough for clinical use).
When OP complained that “Sisolak [the Governor if Nevada]” was seeking to protect the supply of a life-giving drug for lupus sufferers, although I’d never heard of Sisolak I made a bet with myself that he was a Democrat. What do I win?
Trump pills was a phrase used by Jim Peebles upthread.
While this drug may have anti-viral properties in vitro (in a test tube or Petri dish), it has not be shown to have any anti-viral properties in vivo - in a living organism. This is the situation with a lot of these drugs being touted as a miracle cure. THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA. They have all been tested against flu and other viruses. They don’t work.
If you want to discuss the political implications of this, there’s a thread in politics and elections. I have plenty to say about it, but not in this thread,
“Trump pills” was a phrase used by Jim Peebles upthread. Without checking, I made a bet with myself that Jim Peebles was a Republican. Even though I don’t know this for sure, I already took my winnings.
While this drug may have anti-viral properties in vitro (in a test tube or Petri dish), it has not be shown to have any anti-viral properties in vivo - in a living organism. This is the situation with a lot of these drugs being touted as a miracle cure. THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA. They have all been tested against flu and other viruses. They don’t work.
One can also find claims like “sharks never get cancer so shark cartilage can cure yours”. Anyone can make claims, whether true or not. Caveat Emptor.
There is no anti-viral for anything that does anything more dramatic that slightly reduce the duration and intensity of symptoms. The claim of a cure, other than the surefire cure of time, is an extraordinary claim and extraordinary claims require a very high level of proof.
If you want to discuss the political implications of this, there’s a thread in politics and elections. I have plenty to say about it, but this forum isn’t the right place.
RioRIco: you write the Brazil study used chloroquine NOT hydroxychloroquine. If you would actually watch the Dr. Wallace interview you might learn the difference in their safety profiles.
Part of the moderator instructions that you were given was to “Stop promoting untested treatments for coronavirus.” While you have not created new threads on the topic (which was the other part of the moderator instruction), you are clearly promoting this untested treatment.
As such, this is an official warning for failure to follow moderator instructions.
If you continue to promote these untested treatments, we will be forced to review your posting privileges here. Do not post about this again.
Just as a small thing, I wish people would stop calling it a bleach (which I assume came about because of its use in fish tank treatments). It’s an anti-parastic, and it doesn’t have any sanitation properties like a bleach.
Let’s just say once they are embedded, they stay embedded. That may explain the high non-completion rate in the treatment group, but setting those aside, both survivors were able to eventually regain use of their limbs. So a tentative 100% success rate! (apart from their dry rasping cough, which they should get that checked out some time)
It has now been nearly a week since the OP has posted; anyone care to give odds as to whether he ever comes back and admits that pushing Trump’s snake oil was an error? Maybe he’s stocking up on forsythia per earlier suggestion. And Jim Peebles, if you are reading this, the forsythia suggestion was a reference to the movie Contagion, where an unethical vlogger pushed a cure for the deadly novel flu strain using forsythia extract, a cure he made up out of whole cloth to push hits to his videos and increase his visibility.
I’m not a moderator, but I think he has a topic ban on the subject.
However, I imagine the mods would give him a pass if he signed on to apologize for pushing this untested medical approach so hard and citing random YouTube doctors.