Let there be light....

I must have been in a deep sleep. I was so involved in what I thought to be the purity of the academic study of physics and the history thereof, that I didn’t understand our haste to be of a dubious nature. I got caught up in the arms race like most everyone else. When I opened my eyes and saw what I saw, I had to shake my head to clear it, and I said to myself, “Do nothing, you can’t beat it.” I was fearful. We had a bomb facing every direction, not only toward the enemy but back toward ourselves-dictating our actions. We were living in a false peace-aptly called a cold war. It was then I deemed the physics and war communities like unto a man who would enter a large populated room with a hand grenade. He would pull the pin and yell out “All right you so-and-sos, get down on your faces and shut-up.” There would be compliance, then peace, but not heartfelt peace.

I couldn’t find any compassion for academia. I blamed them. I hated them for what they were doing to me and our country. Whoa,-my legs wobbled from my thoughts. I fell to my knees. I considered myself to be like them and I couldn’t do anything about it. In my heart I cried out to know Love. I could go nowhere. The heaviness of my understanding rendered me still.

My most valuable possession, the profound thoughts of the physical community that I believed could never be superseded, plummeted me into a place of melancholic void, a space with no life. Everything known about the heavens was being used to do injustice to man-and I bought into it. I felt that the totality of my being personified death. I was sore-afraid. This penetrating moment of understanding is what I call my great spiritual black out.

Seeing me in this most untenable state, my wife-to-be sought help. She joined a church. We were told to discontinue our living arrangement until we were married. This was the last straw. There couldn’t be more. Devastated and alone-separated from life itself-I was unable to fully comprehend. What is going on, I thought? The very community that professed love was doing their best to break us up. I wanted justice. Revenge crept up inside of me. Those … Christians were saying we were living in sin; what about them I thought. They were greedily protecting their way of life while the greater portion of the people on the earth were starving. Hypocrites!

Obviously, I couldn’t go to the spiritual community. I had no personal relationship with God or them. My inability to see the light in the physical community kept me from any hint of refuge on this earth. I had no place to share my feelings. My depression became so great that I was afraid to die for fear of what forever might be.

O Lord, by these things men live, and in all these things is the life of my spirit: so wilt thou recover me, and make me to live. Isa. 38:16

I screwed up my courage, and proceeded to throw away all of my dreams. I quit work. I left home. I purchased a used copy of the King James Version of the Bible (because it was the oldest) and stormed off to be close to the sea. I armed myself with the destruction of Christianity-their own Words.

In my first attempt, I couldn’t understand a syllable of the King James English. I had read a great deal of Shakespeare, but, there was no sense to be made of this writing. Could it be there was some sort of hidden code? (In retrospect, I was tenaciously clinging to my only understanding-even though I perceived it to have no foundation.) By the grace of God, I remembered I was told to “kneel and pray” before reading the book. I thought it was silly to get on my knees, (what could I do there that I couldn’t do standing or sitting) but I did. “I don’t know who you are God, and I don’t know what to say, but if you’re there please help me to understand.” An awareness of something began to tug at my soul. It kept coming to my mind that I would hear the truth if I tried reading the Bible again.

Many times in the past, questions emerged from within me concerning how man came into being or what made the earth and the stars. In the academic disciplines I had read, the only answer that I could find was: it could have been this, or, according to an ancient writer if this were so, then maybe that happened. In the Bible, the first words said to me were God did it! I clearly understood what was said. I made a choice. Without question I believed for the first time. God took me to the beginning and started me in a direction I innately wanted to go-toward heaven. At that moment, one on one, God created for me the Heaven and the Earth.

My first reading of the Bible was very deliberate. It took six weeks. I stopped only for sleep and prayers of forgiveness for the things I had done. Most of my reading was outside, in a little clump of trees, close to the water, where I could be by myself. Nothing could have kept me from the truth that was unfolding. I had been unctioned to leave the darkness behind. From Genesis to the Revelation, the words of God riveted my soul with the wonder of creation and the knowledge of my wretchedness.

When I met Jesus, I could see myself as one who would throw dice for his garments, and stick a spear in his side to test if he were dead.

I finished the Revelation and immediately returned to the old testament. I sought to understand more of Christ and the Church through the relationship of Ruth to Boaz. When the awareness came, my whole being seemed to focus on our Saviour Jesus and his reasons for allowing the terribleness of the cross to happen. It was then I believed Jesus to be the Messiah. I came undone. I knew that every part of me was known. I felt naked. In my thoughts I was a drunk, a whoremonger, a murderer, a perverted soul with no right to life-Satan himself-and all the host of heaven was watching. The terror was more than I could bear. I cried for God to eradicate me from the earth, to send me to hell for the benefit of those I might endanger.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen. 1:3

Instead of God taking me off the earth, I woke up on the ground prostrate and crying uncontrollably. For a moment I thought a whirlwind had entered me and moved every particle of my physicality around and into a different place. There was mud and grass covering my face and imbedded deep into my fingernails. I was surrounded by Jesus, the light. The book was true. It said, “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me” (Rev. 3:20).

Shortly, I felt the softness of a hand on my shoulder. It was an old lady. She said her name was Ruth. She had come to tell me Jesus is my Saviour-I had been forgiven. She told me she had been watching me for several weeks. She sat on the ground with me and for the better part of the day comforted me with her hugs and exceptional knowledge of Scripture. She assured me that the light I was experiencing was Jesus, and showed me the biblical proof. I asked her about mercy, faith, grace, flesh and sin. I told her my darkest secrets. I asked her why Jesus wasn’t talking to me like he did with Paul. She said, he probably revealed all he had to say to me in the Scripture, but he promised he would visit those who believed. I asked if I could see her again; almost dismissing the thought, she said Jesus would show me the way.

In those few precious moments with Ruth, and for the first time in my life on this earth, I experienced truth, love, friendship, joy, righteousness, and forgiveness. How I long to give those things away as she gave them to me.

The visible light was with me for months. I told everyone about it. Thinking me crazy, my friends began to dissipate. Some of the people in the churches I attended suggested psychological help. I thought all Christians had seen the light. Isn’t it Jesus that sets us apart? Jesus is the light of the world, the firstfruits of the spirit. We are the light of the world, the firstfruits thereafter. When I insisted, I was called Satan. I was told I was transforming myself into an angel of light. The confusion overwhelmed me. I wanted things cleared up so I could at least talk to people who professed they had been saved. As my zealousness began to fade, a gift was strongly implanted in my mind to thoroughly study every word in the Bible, to “prove all things.” I wasn’t going to stop talking about Jesus, so I had no choice. It was difficult for me to comprehend that maturity comes with wisdom and I had little. Down deep inside though, to the marrow of my bones, I was convinced there is nothing more important than God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and eternal life. I couldn’t be Satan-I had been forgiven!

One day I noticed the light surrounding me had begun to recede toward the heavens. In tears, I frantically searched the Scripture to find out why. With great relief, I found passages saying Jesus would return, “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you” (John 16:7). “Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee” (Hebr. 13:5). I trusted him.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Gen.1:4

Already posted here and here .

Strewth!!

Some bloody long words therein, verily

And yea, not even your own…oh wait

I just stepped outside and looked up and there was light in every direction. There’s an overcast so it is evenly diffused across the sky, too. Rather than looking for proof in books try relying on your own experience. It works better when you do it at noon, though. At night it’s too dark.

Wow.

Read—One, Two, Three…Infinity (1947) by George Gamow and see what he said about the optical horizon.

I care not what mechanism brought forth the universe, because I do not know. Moreover, there is not a person or group of persons on this planet that can completely describe the mechanism.

I personally believe the mechanism was/is a “giving” entity/force. I know that gravity can be a giving force—I choose not to use the term “pushing gravity.”

I will not debate any issue with any of you. I will give my understandings, but, I will not engage in the drivel that has been presented here.

You may say to me, “Why do you come to these boards?”—I come here because, quite simply, I want others to understand my thoughts—whether accepted or rejected. I would prefer though, that you handle yourselves in a more comely fashion. Whatever you do is fine with me—I will not debate. Debate, in my mind, can only lead us to a place of vanity—none of us can prove, without doubt, anything. I personally would rather look toward the betterment of man than a “big-bang” that did or did not happen. Been there, done that—vanity!

I believe in physics and science as a process to bring humanity to a place of dominion on this planet. I see the gifts the physics communities have given mankind. I see man, through science, is living longer and safer and healthier—save for our need to use bombs to get anothers attention.

I do not just believe in God—I know God. I see the workings of God on this planet. (The greek word for the “workings” of God, in the Bible is energia." I know the Bible is the impetus, because of the variables brought forth in it, for us to study the heavens. Because of the Bible and the concept of God we have been enabled to come out of the caves we were in. Because of God, I have been given to know love and I know that love does not carry a bomb in its hand—love gives and will devise ways to bring life and light to those who live in the distruction of darkness and the unfounded disaproval of anothers thoughts.

Blessings

If you will not debate any issue why is this in Great Debates?

What he said.

This is the forum for witnessing, if you feel you must. He feels he must.

As long as they are his words, and as long as he is not actually drive-by spamming, (a matter that I would agree is shaded gray), he is permitted to post.

GD is the official repository for witnessing on the SDMB–a rule I assure you I had no part in promulgating.

You say it like it is a bad thing. :wink:

As for the return of the OP, I have never felt it more appropriate to say:

TLDR

Um, why? Wouldn’t this fit better in My Humble Opinion? Except for the humble part, it fits perfectly.

Surely you mean MPSIMS

Yeah, that’ll work too. I was going for the joke.

That isn’t quite what I was referring to. What I was referring to works in a finite universe as well. I was talking about how particles interact with other particles, that there is no point of seperation between them, no line of demarcation where energy is not flowing. For instance, if I can see a star, then I am interacting with its light, in a physical way. Therefore if it is constantly putting out light then there is no point in between myself and it where light from it does not exist.

Revenant Threshold :rolleyes: Given that I can’t possibly know what every person believes, or means when they are saying ‘light’, I think it’s a fair assumption that lightwait means energy in general, or the knowledge/experience thereof, based upon the context of the OP.

Der Trihs The difference is that many licensed professionals would say that your diagnosis is medically worthless.

Some stars are far enough away from us that they’ve burned out long ago, and the light from them is just arriving now. So there actually can be a point between you and a star where its light doesn’t exist.

Of course. They are religious themselves, or afraid of what the religious would do. Admitting that religion is a mental illness would kill their career, and possibly themselves.

No, because there is no more star. So that point is not between me and the star. The star no longer exists, that last bit of light that is making its way to me is the remainder of its existence.

There might be a point between me and where that star used to be that has no light.

Preach the good word, hopefully you’ll get through eventually. How many converts do you have so far?