the Indy-500 on Sunday!!
She’s not just beautiful and a talented driver, but she’s got charisma and coolness coming out the tail pipes, what a lady! 
You had me at “beautiful”.
You again had me at ‘tail pipes’.
Huh? You lost me. Where did I lose ya? :dubious:
“Let’s”.
I’ve already heard her dubbed the Anna Kournikova of racing. As in, she’ll never win an event.
I don’t get it. Even in the middle of their careers, they’re among the top tenth of the percentile in their profession. Yet they get shit because they’re pretty and “haven’t won”. I’ve no problem with Ana Kournikova, and if Danica never wins, I’ve got no problem with her.
Why did you put “haven’t won” in irony quotes? Neither has (to date) ever won an individual competition. (AK was one of the best at doubles, especially when paired with Martina Hingis. Those matches were beyond hot…)
When it comes to professional athletes in individual sports, “you’ve never won anything” is a legitimate criticism.
How about I root for whoever is actually the best driver to win, regardless of whether they’re hawt or charismatic?
So, how 'bout them Yankees?
Okay let me think about this for a moment.
Ah, NO. 
Sure they are among the most talented players in the world playing against the other superstars. How come they just don’t win all the time. Real criticism there.
There are lots of tremendous athletes that do not win. They make a lot of money and have big careers.
Fucking hamsters ate my post. It’s not a legitimate criticism because they haven’t beat the best. They’re already better than virtually the rest of the planet in their sport. I’ve noticed that people that see it as a valid point of criticism are hyper-competitive, armchair quarterback types, or have simply never excelled at a sport endeavor on any upper level. Being able to make a living doing what they love doesn’t make you a loser simply because you haven’t won a tournament/race at the highest levels.
Those weren’t irony quotes. That was a direct quote, although not necessarily from you. (I contemplated putting the words “irony quotes” in irony quotes, but we’d get all screwed up then.)
I saw Ana K. at the mall once. Yowza.
Charisma? I’ve never seen her say an interesting thing. Plus, she talks without moving her lips.
The other woman in the field is much hotter.
Actually, there are two other women in the field – Sarah Fisher and Milka Duno.
Well her finish of 2nd in the Formula Ford Festival out of a few hundred entries, which is the highest ever for ANY American, is pretty impressive.
I’m going to root for any of the women to win, because I think anything that empowers young girls to realize that they can compete in any field they choose is a good thing. There is no realistic way that Fisher or Duno have the equipment though. Patrick has been one of the fastest cars all month, and even lead one practice day, IIRC.
Let’s also not forget that as a rookie, she 1)stalled exiting her pit, then 2)spun out 2/3 of the way through the race, and still led with a few laps left before she had to conserve gas to make it to the end. Had she not had any of those 3 issues arise, I’d say there is at least a 50/50 chance she would have won the race as a rookie.
But she has an unfair advantage! :rolleyes:
Go Danica!
Well, I hope she does win this thing, mainly because I’m sick of lazy dolts constantly dragging up Anna Kournikova without having the slightest understanding of how her career went or WHY her failure to win a singles tournament was so glaring*.
Why the hell not? She’s been up there once. And it’s not like this second-rate petty power trip of a league has much else to root for.
As for never winning, let’s all please remember:
- There are lots and lots of cars in the field. Statistically speaking, less than 3% of the field wins the race. So victories aren’t exactly easy to come by.
- She’s young. If she’s still winless in ten years, then I’ll start worrying. For now, I’m more than happy to presume that win #1 is coming in due time and anticipate that moment.
- Someone can probably do this better than me, but in a nutshell: Shot to fame by drooling Internet fanboys (a once-in-history bonanza even without the WTH factor). Signed lots of lucrative deals, so she was never under any pressure to succeed on the WTA tour. Plenty of talent, but unfocused; all kinds of side projects and distractions. Went as high as #8 with more than a few runner-ups, so the potential was there. Suffered a rash of injuries, completely neglected training, and had a string of horrible tournaments before vanishing with no fanfare whatsoever in 2003.
ALL women are beautiful in one way or another.
Everything Danica says is so spot-on. She’s very amazing in how poised she is. 
Don’t have a clue about this lips not moving thing. Perhaps you need another cup of coffee. 
Nobody said anything about not winning all the time. I said that neither had ever won, even once.
Heh, looks like I pissed off the whole family. First of all, it is beyond meaningless to point out that a professional athlete is better at their sport than people who aren’t professional athletes. The end of this little rant is more applicable to Danica than Anna. At least I think it is. In tennis, there are something like 50+ individual events in a season, and a typical pro won’t play even half of those. This means that pretty much everybody racks up a couple tournament wins here and there, simply because none of the tops seeds bother to enter the East Bumfuck Tennis Tourney & Cattle-Call Rodeo. I don’t know IRL very well, but from what I can gather, most of the pros compete at most (or even all) the events, so it would be much less of a meaningful dig at Danica than it would at Kournikova.
The only reason she was leading at the end is because she skipped the last pit stop, which is why she ended up coasting on fumes and ultimately losing. Most would classify that as a screw-up.
She does indeed have an unfair advantage, so every race she doesn’t win tends to lend credibility to the theory that she is a mediocre driver at best.
Hopefully she’ll prove me wrong later today. I’m not holding my breath, though.
I agree wholeheartedly. However, I feel you need an assist in making your case:
OK, drooling aside, I find it a bit ironic that after all the struggles and heartache women go through just trying to show that they can be equally adept at traditionally male professions (and they absolutely can be), having to fend off all the stupidity and sexism, what do you see when (some) women get in a position to attain equal greatness? You see them selling their T&A. That’s progress for ya.