[QUOTE=Orual]
You really think they’re going to stick with the WWII stuff for the movie? Is Captain America one of these magical non-agers like Wolverine?
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Not quite. During a mission towards the end of WWII, Captain America fell into the North Atlantic ocean and ended up frozen in a block of ice. Years later, he was found and thawed out, and joined the Avengers. A big part of his character these days is the culture shock between the America he left, and the one he finds himself in after being defrosted.
[QUOTE=Orual]
You really think they’re going to stick with the WWII stuff for the movie? Is Captain America one of these magical non-agers like Wolverine?
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He was frozen in [del]carbonite[/del]ice during WWII - that and the super soldier serum, who knows how that works…
[QUOTE=Miller]
The problem is, Cap’s backstory firmly places him in the middle of an America consumed by race issues: he’s supposed to have been a frontline soldier, media darling, and national hero during WWII. Being biracial, in that time and place, rules out all three of those. Which is too bad, because otherwise, he’d be perfect for the role.
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Maybe it’s my modern sensibilities, but I think that, at the time in question, Johnson could’ve “passed” as being of southern European descent (Greek, Italian or Spanish), anyway. Which means his real-life ethnicity could be ignored. Yes, classic Cap is a downright WASP, but that’s not to say movie Cap has to be.
[QUOTE=MrDibble]
He was frozen in [del]carbonite[/del]ice during WWII - that and the super soldier serum, who knows how that works…
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Now I’m seeing the Red Skull forcing Cap to get into the carbonite coffin. As he’s lowered into the chamber, Bucky yells, “I love you, Cap!” And Cap says, “I know.”
Sorry…that was a Batman and Robin scenario. How’d that get in there? :dubious:
[QUOTE=jayjay]
Maybe it’s my modern sensibilities, but I think that, at the time in question, Johnson could’ve “passed” as being of southern European descent (Greek, Italian or Spanish), anyway. Which means his real-life ethnicity could be ignored. Yes, classic Cap is a downright WASP, but that’s not to say movie Cap has to be.
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I’m usually cool with messing around with superhero’s established ethnicities (Michael Duncan as Kingpin, Sam Jackson as Nick Fury, the rumor about Gina Torres playing Wonder Woman, etc.) but I think Captain America needs to be a WASP for his character to work. He needs to be solidly from the mainstream of mid-century America. He embodies everything that was great about that mainstream America, but also the naivete about just how much was wrong with it, too. If he’s from outside that mainstream, that naivete is a much harder sell. Even if he’s just from an Italian or Spanish background: Catholics were almost as far outside the mainstream as blacks were, at that time. Maybe further, in some ways, as Catholics were considered “foreign” in a way African-Americans were not: for all the prejudice against blacks, they’d been a major part of the American landscape since before the country’s inception, while Italians, Greeks, and other non-Northern Europeans were a relatively new (and as such, untrusted) demographic.
[QUOTE=JThunder]
Captain America: Kermit
Iron Man: Gonzo
Thor: Sweetums
The Hulk: Animal
Ant-Man: Fozzie
The Wasp: Piggy
Hawkeye: Lew Zealand
The Black Widow: Janice
The Black Panther: Rizzo
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Thor - Ranier Wolfcastle (a.k.a. “McBain”)
Iron-Man - Barney Gimble
Hank Pym (Ant-Man/Goliath/Yellowjacket) - Homer
Wasp - Marge
Captain America - Seymour Skinner
Hawkeye - Bart
Scarlet Witch - Lisa
Quicksilver - Milhouse
Hercules - Nelson
Black Panther - Karl
Vision - Prof. Frink
Black Knight - Lenny
Black Widow - Edna Krabappel
Jarvis - Waylon Smithers
Henry Gyrich - Superintendent Chalmers
[QUOTE=JThunder]
Captain America: Kermit
Iron Man: Gonzo
Thor: Sweetums
The Hulk: Animal
Ant-Man: Fozzie
The Wasp: Piggy
Hawkeye: Lew Zealand
The Black Widow: Janice
The Black Panther: Rizzo
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[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman]
Thor - Ranier Wolfcastle (a.k.a. “McBain”)
Iron-Man - Barney Gimble
Hank Pym (Ant-Man/Goliath/Yellowjacket) - Homer
Wasp - Marge
Captain America - Seymour Skinner
Hawkeye - Bart
Scarlet Witch - Lisa
Quicksilver - Milhouse
Hercules - Nelson
Black Panther - Karl
Vision - Prof. Frink
Black Knight - Lenny
Black Widow - Edna Krabappel
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Sheesh, guys. You can’t take this thread seriously?
Captain America: Spongebob Squarepants
Iron Man: Mr. Krabbs
Thor: Patrick
Hawkeye: Squidward
Wasp: Sandy
Ant-Man: Larry the Lobster
Scarlet Witch: Pearl Krabbs
Quicksilver: Sheldon
