Let's talk about the Matrix Movies.

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I saw Revolutions at a preview screening.

The verdict, sans spoilers: Meh.

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Part II ended with “To be Continued” (and a trailer for Part III) because the latter two parts of BTTF were filmed simultaneously. Much the same as the latter two parts of The Matrix.

The first film did include the ending with Doc coming back from the future in his snazzy flying DeLorean, but it was originally just intended as an ending joke, and not a setup for a sequel. Nobody expected BTTF to be as hugely sucessful as it was. (This is according to the commentary tracks on the DVDs.)

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Didn’t it say “To Be Concluded”?

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I think that was Reloaded

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To elaborate on another one of my passions, Back to the Future: “To be continued” was placed at the end of BTTF 1 on only the video release, not the movie theater release. At the time they never beleived there to be 2 more made.
And part 2 did end with “To be concluded”

What about the Roman word for two?

Back to my original questions about the first Matrix,

  1. Who let out Morpheus?
  2. Why did the mirror turn too ooze and climb up Neo?
  3. Who was Neo talking to on the phone at the end of the film?

Thoughts about those anyone?

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  1. I don’t think the ooze was anything more then just something for the audience. Maybe we were looking at what Neo thought he was going through? I probably missed some important dialogue in that scene.
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The Latin word for two is duo. The Latin word for 2nd is secundus. The Latin word for double is bini, and for twice, bis. There is no form of the word two in Latin that resembles morpheus. Pretty much any word you can think of with the -morph- root comes ultimately from the Greek word for shape.

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  1. He was probably discovered and prepared as a child like that bald kid with the spoon.

  2. I’ve been wondering about this myself. The only explanation I’ve thought of is Neo’s connection with the matrix was being disrupted by that pill he ate earlier. This caused his perception of “reality” to get screwed up. Not really fleshed out, I know. Maybe someone else can come up with a better theory.

  3. The agents most likely have a program to moniter all telephone conversations. Notice how the phone numbers are being revealed one digit at a time during the beginning and end? That is how phone traces are often deplicited in movies.

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Umm, can we take the Back to the Future discussion somewhere else? It’s really confusing when you suddenly drop in and talk about “Parts II and III”, no series name identified, in the middle of a Matrix Trilogy thread.

Back to the Matrix:

Reloaded suffers from one fatal flaw–not a single one of the fight scenes really matter. It’s the Jedi Knight problem from Phantom Menace: If the characters are so confident that nothing bad will happen, and then nothing does, the audience will very quickly not care. Neo can beat anyone? Okay. We won’t worry.

The first movie was great, because every battle was (a) something new and fresh (a problem for any sequel) and also (b) a life-or-death struggle which the good guys were heavily weighted to lose, and were sincerely afraid of losing. You never see the fear in any of them that you saw in the first movie when, say, Trinity learns that an agent is after her in the opening sequence, or when they get cut off inside that bricked-up building, and will almost certainly all die.

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Umm, can we take the Back to the Future discussion somewhere else? It’s really confusing when you suddenly drop in and talk about “Parts II and III”, no series name identified, in the middle of a Matrix Trilogy thread.

Back to the Matrix:

Reloaded suffers from one fatal flaw–not a single one of the fight scenes really matter. It’s the Jedi Knight problem from Phantom Menace: If the characters are so confident that nothing bad will happen, and then nothing does, the audience will very quickly not care. Neo can beat anyone? Okay. We won’t worry.

The first movie was great, because every battle was (a) something new and fresh (a problem for any sequel) and also (b) a life-or-death struggle which the good guys were heavily weighted to lose, and were sincerely afraid of losing. You never see the fear in any of them that you saw in the first movie when, say, Trinity learns that an agent is after her in the opening sequence, or when they get cut off inside that bricked-up building, and will almost certainly all die.

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I thought the only pointless fight was with Seraph, but upon a few more viewings I noticed that they were evenly matched. No one else in the entire movie stalemated Neo like Seraph. That makes him a threat to me - and his “I protect that which is most important.” line makes him a wild card.

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I hope that Revolutions is much better than Reloaded.