Letter To The Dope

Well, it is simple, really. If you don’t want to be called Alt-Right, don’t use a term that in my experience, is a 100% accurate marker of being a member of that group.

Because even if you claim that you are not one, the use of the term makes it clear that you are at very least, part of that mindset and a sympathizer.

I saw someone in a comment section recently tell another commenter he was probably “the kind of guy who thinks calling someone a ‘statist’ is a withering insult.”

WillFarnaby is not as unique as he probably thinks he is, nor (unfortunately) as unique as we wish he were.

Ah, OK. And I did little googling, which confirmed your analysis. I did not know that, but I’m not sure if I’m better off now than before as there is some knowledge not worth knowing. Perhaps I could have cured cancer with the part of my brain now taken up by that knowledge! :smiley:

Just rebranded Nazis, who held the same basic beliefs.

It continually heartens me how often people have never heard of these douchebags before. It makes me realize they are more irrelevant than even I think they are.

Though it does make me feel somewhat sorry for people having to learn about them.

Nice enemy you’ve conjured up there. Sorry you need it. Would you like a kleenex?

What is really stupid about that is that if you look at the really conservative states, those are the ones trying their best to sculpt society and force people into little boxes.

You especially have to watch out for the worst statists of all-- the “moderate libertarians”. They are sneaky as all get out!!

Like they tried to make “Liberal” an insult. Sometimes the looks on people’s faces when they spit that out like profanity and I smile and admit that AM a Liberal is precious.

On mine, too, but not the first.

First person I ever put on my own ignore list was because of intense confusion with another poster. Derleth is an intelligent poster. But then I’d be reading a post that was just so achingly dumb, like, when-did-Derleth-get-a-lobotomy stupid. I just could not for the life of me understand how a poster who ordinarily wrote such sensible things could suddenly sound like a middle-schooler whose hobby was eating lead-based paint chips. Intense whiplash from dumb-smart-dumb-smart. It was like Jekyll and Hyde.

When I finally figured out it was actually two different posters, I felt an intense sense of relief. And then resorted to the ignore function. No fair to the good posters when the bad poster has a sufficiently similar name. Same case here, so into my ignore list the “beta cuck” moron went. No loss not to read his posts.

Yeah, it’s easy to mix up Derleth’s name with DrDeth. I do that all of the time. No insult intended. Derleth is clearly the more intelligent of the two.

Fair enough. I won’t quibble with seeing things slightly differently than I do.

Now where’d I put that damned little violin?..

Hey…

Homogenization?

We want everyone treated equally under the law. That is the promise of the US Constitution. But we certainly don’t want everyone to be the same! Diversity is not Homogenization. An all white christian nation would be homogenization.

Amazing how some Conservatives (Trump being a master at this) project their own weaknesses and failures on others.

Complaining about black people, gay people and other religions getting ‘special treatment’ merely by being allowed to exist, be treated equally under the law and being able to pursue their own happiness? Isn’t that just wanting to tamp everyone down and force people to pretend not to exist, or to acknowledge white christian mastery?

Frankly, complaints that any of it makes you (generic you) ‘uncomfortable’ or you don’t want to have to explain it to your children are utter bullshit. If you have to explain something like that to your children, then you’ve failed at being a parent, because you’ve taught them lies and bigotry and now suddenly you have to explain that not everyone believes your shit.

It always cracks me up when someone makes a very very loud public declaration of Leaving The Dope®.

Because, you see, you cannot have your account canceled. Ever. You can be banned, and if our recently departed Stringbean wanted to commit Suicide By Moderator, no doubt she could go down in flames like so many other Dopers have.

This comes up every few years. Near as I can remember, you cannot actually leave. You can simply go silent. All of the posts will remain as will the status as a member. ( Don’t pay your yearly and Charter Membership will slide away of course ).

All in all, not much of a flouncing off.

Welcome to the Hotel Straight Dope.
You can log off any time you want.
But you can never leave.

Even though that’s pretty much just a vanity title anymore. Mine lapsed a LONG time ago and it hasn’t affected by Dope experience at all.

I have no interest in saving progressives et al. Many are too old. I will attempt to undermine their presumed moral superiority. That is what their control over everyone rests on.

My bar is much lower than bringing wisdom. I simply try to bring self-awareness, and your case particularly is a tough nut to crack.

Yes, I am not an original thinker, but I never claimed to be. It’s kind of sad when people do that. They pretty much admit they no nothing of history.

Statist is shorthand for a much longer description. I could switch to authoritarian if you prefer, but I somehow doubt it.

I’m confused, is there an enemy of liberty like that or not?

Of course that is why I said " They [conservatives] believe government can and should sculpt society into an ideal form, but their form is maybe a little different."

If you actually think the few liberal states are not trying to do that, that is why I am trying to bring a sense of self-awareness to your type.

Yes. They live to be embraced by the left. Their idea of heaven is being pat on the head by a liberal for not being one of THOSE libertarians. “Oh you’re a goooood libertarian aren’t you, boy? Yes you are, yessss you are.”

They speak up about something like the minimum wage: “Hey guys, you know these laws really hurt those who need help the most.” They get completely ignored and then they sign up for every other item on the progressive wish list. Lol it’s sad.

Then they concoct ridiculous schemes like Universal Basic Income just so they can play bureaucrat too.

Is that smile from sense of triumph for having manipulated language in such a manner as to adopt a name and use it in direct contradiction to its original purpose?

No need. It’s like watching a cow graze.

Exhibit A

When it comes to politics, and whether I view someone as a meaningful contributor, it has nothing to do with the ideology. It’s all about the delivery. It’s all about whether one can demonstrate a modicum of critical thinking without behaving like a condescending ass.