You know, when life hands you lemons, you can’t make lemonade unless you have some water, some sugar, a lemon press, some ice cubes, and a pitcher.
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Y’know what? Tough titties. We don’t bitch to entertain you.
You know, when life hands you lemons, you can’t make lemonade unless you have some water, some sugar, a lemon press, some ice cubes, and a pitcher.
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Y’know what? Tough titties. We don’t bitch to entertain you.
Yeah, that’s true, Stoid. I’ll keep your rant in mind prior to my next pit thread. (Of course i’ll make it anyway but you know, I’ll be thinking of you.)
Question: Are you the same person as Stoidela with a changed name…or is that somebody different?
pldennison
I surely agree with you that it is offensive to be told to stop whining about your problems by someone else who is not living through them. But I would point out that there is some validity to the OP, though from a different direction. A person is better off if they do take the attitude expressed in the OP. They will be happier in life if they can always look at the bright side of things. From my own perspective, I cannot say that I always take the positive attitude - but I wish I did. But again, this is not to imply that anyone who dismisses someone else’s (genuine) problems by saying “hey, it could always be worse” is being anything other than obnoxious.
I’m not sure if you disagree with this. Just figured I’d point it out.
There are so many different ways I could respond to this, including not responding at all, since I feel in truth it is not very deserving of a response.
But since you are choosing this of all threads to finally spew all the bile you’ve apparently been saving up just for little ol’ me, I think I will say a few words.
You have the right to feel how ever you want to. My OP doesn’t say a word about rights. But does it improve the quality of your life or anyone else you care about for you to be filled with rage and self-pity that your life falls short of being ** perfect **? Is being all pissed off at everything really workin’ for ya, guy?
Nope. You don’t have to, and that would be the point you are so determined to miss. Your life IS terrific, you have fooled yourself into thinking that it is not…
If car repair bills, a missed trip and a sister with poor parenting skills is the best you can come up with to justify being thoroughly hostile and defensive at being told that life is good, then I do feel for you. Not for the circumstances of your life, but for the way you see it. That’s really sad, and I hope for your sake you never have any real problems. My car just cost me $10,000 and my sister is dead, and I think life is pretty damn sweet.
The fact that out of all the things I’ve ever said and every thread I’ve ever participated in, you decide that now is the time for you to deposit your vitriol says so much more about you than it does about me, PL. “What?!?! She’s exhorting me to * be happy and appreciate my life? * That little**bitch ** , why I oughta….” The fact that even Scylla could get behind what I’m saying here, whereas you decided to take it as the ideal opportunity to publicly shit, says a lot more about you than it does about me.
So have a delightful day, filled with all the anger, bile, self-pity and rage you feel you are justly entitled to. Rock on.
Stoid
PS: I also recommend getting a sense of humor. It’s a great stress reliever, and all indicators are that you could use all the stress relief you can find.
And therein lies the rub, dummy. You don’t know anything about my life. You know as much as I choose to tell you and the rest of the SDMB. So to put out a litany of meaningless generalities predicated on the fact that I happened to be born in North America rather than elsewhere in the world, and tell me (or anyone) that that means life is really great, is errant nonsense.
I could as easily post that, because you live in a time when all the bad things you mention are actually happening, therefore life stinks. And it would be just as meaningless. This is just the kind of crap that means nothing and ends up cluttering up people’s e-mail inboxes.
Saving up my vitriol for you? Hardly, toots. (I mean, it isn’t like it’s a secret that I don’t like you.) I would’ve said the same about the OP no matter who posted it. The fact that it was you is just delicious irony, especially since I can guarantee that within the next 72 hours you will be in GD bitching about something or another.
I think Izzy actually summed it up nicely, even though he disagreed with what I said: " . . this is not to imply that anyone who dismisses someone else’s (genuine) problems by saying ‘hey, it could always be worse’ is being anything other than obnoxious." That’s you in a nutshell, Stoid: Obnoxious, hysterical, hypocritical.
All right, who’s going to tell Stoid that Bush isn’t going to step down regardless of what some newspaper in Florida says?
Stoid, glad to see you put on your rose-colored glasses before posting today. I’d join you in the “life is good” chant except I’ve misplaced my yeast infection medicine.
Lisa, off to find a stiff wire brush.
Only if you think that political debates on message boards have much to do with real life, which I don’t, and never have. As I’ve explained before, it is a form of entertainment, hello. Don’t know about you, sweetie, but I have a real world I live in.
I was confounded by your timing with this. I don’t recall you ever saying much of anything to me, pl. Maybe a post or two lost in the zillions during the election, but nothing like this charming display of ugliness (you must be so proud!). Why now? Why this post? (after all, you didn’t simply zap the post, pl, you seized this as your chance to rage about me in a more general fashion, and you wouldn’t have done that to anyone else. Unless, of course, it was someone else you hate as much as you seem to hate me. And for your own sake, I hope there aren’t too many of those in the world. That much rage, you are going to Type A your self right into something unhealthy.)
Then it hit me… so long as you labored under the misapprehension that my being unhappy with the election or anything else I debated somehow meant that I was as miserable as, face it, you appear to be, then that was ok. You could be cozy with hating me, believing that I was suffering as you felt I should be.
So to have me post this, for me to declare that I am happy with my life and appreciating all the good things in it, that I am apparently not as miserable as you seem to be, and to have the audacity to suggest that most of us need to be a little more appreciative of how good our lives really and truly are…well, hell, that’s just intolerable! We can’t have that! Stoid is supposed to be hiding in a dark apartment, raging at the world, miserable, friendless, and unloved, filled with frustration and rage! How dare she turn out not to be!
Well, sorry to be such a disappointment to ya.
stoid
Wearin’ rosy shades, feelin’ groovy…
Hmmm.
Phil responded to this OP.
If that ain’t indicative of a sense of humor, I don’t know what is.
Stoid, your sniping at PLD looks just plain silly in light of your OP. You’ve put words in his mouth, called him all sorts of names (directly and by implication), an generally shown an awfully short fuse. And no, the “my life is much worse than yours and I’m still better than you” argument does not hold water.
Why don’t you smell the shit you’re shovelling, Stoid? Or, as someone once put it:
Christ, is it that fucking difficult to just ignore someone?
You are absolutely right, Andros.
I’m weak. <slumping>
Oh well, there’s always next time.
stoid
A positive attiture is always a work in progress.
Originally by pldennison
Sorry, Ice Wolf, but I ain’t buying it. First of all, I’m not sure how what you’ve gone through recently relates to me “getting a grip.” In case it’s escaped your notice, I’m not you, nor are you me. My experiences are my experiences, and if I interepret them as good, then they’re good, and if I interpret them as bad, then they’re bad. I have no right to invalidate yours with a pithy “Get over it,” and vice versa.
I advised you to get a grip because you’re letting what’s going on in your life colour what you say, what you think, how you communicate, how you comprehend. You’ve seen bad things, in a bad period (however long), and now you’re on a casting call for Scrooge. You are most welcome to fester away in your own custom-made pit of pity, but stop spitting your bile over anyone else who really wants to feel happy with their lot.
by pldennison
Sorry, but here’s a big fucking smack with the Clue Stick: People get unhappy. It happens, and it’s a perfectly valid feeling. Telling someone, “Cheer up, you aren’t dead and don’t live in Rwanda,” is about the LEAST fucking useful way of dealing with it.
Shit, you’re humourless, aren’t you? Sorry, this is a difference in cultural backgrounds 'twixt you and me. I was brought up to live with what you’ve got, be thankful for the roof over your head and food in your stomach. My mother lived through the London Blitz, which is about as shitty as you can get for an English teenager during World War II, short of active service or the Holocaust. At least, for her. But she survived, as a lot of the Londoners did, but just going on. They didn’t go around spreading the “misery bug”.
There are a lot of bright and breezy folk on this board. I’m sorry you’re not one of them. Should I say I feel sad for you? I do – for a millisecond.
Originally by matt_mcl
Y’know what? Tough titties. We don’t bitch to entertain you.
Oh? And why, pray tell, is said bitching done on a public board? So others read it. And readers/lurkers come here to be entertained. Tough titties to you too, mate. You can rant all you like – I’m choosing to call it fucking BORING!
Oh, and for the lemonade – go down to the creek, get some honey from the bees, use a clean can from somewhere, get a rock or two and ask someone for ice. It’s usually free. If you want to get out of the rut, you will. If you want to – hey, that’s your fate.
Er, Icewolf?
When you say:
you’re letting what’s going on in your life colour what you say, what you think, how you communicate, how you comprehend. You’ve seen bad things, in a bad period (however long), and now you’re on a casting call for Scrooge. You are most welcome to fester away in your own custom-made pit of pity, but stop spitting your bile over anyone else who really wants to feel happy with their lot.
. . . dontcha think you might be reading a little too much into Phil’s posts? You seem to be making a load of assumptions. I’m guessing you don’t know the man personally, tho I suppose I could be wrong.
Yeah, you’re right, Andros. Put it down to heat of the moment. My apologies, pldennison, please ignore that.
But honestly – when someone writes a positive OP such as this thread’s, why does anyone have to take it as a threat, or something “obnoxious”? Okay, Stoid’s been in GD battles etc., but why can’t stuff be taken on a post-by-post basic? There is a natiness creeping in here which I myself find obnoxious. I’m sorry if I added to it.
natiness = nastiness. Another sigh, but for me, this time.
And here I was scared that I was gonna hijack the thread!
Well I called the shrink today, but they say they can’t take me until after spring break (grrrr…). Luckly today was a beautiful shineing wonderful day and I keep hopeing that it will last this time. If it doesn’t, at least I have plenty of work to keep me busy.
Thanks for all the support. I can’t figure out why it is so touching to get love from strangers (even if they did go to your high school ). Inexplicable as it is, it helps. Thanks all!
I’ll now let you return to your bickering.
*Originally posted by even sven *
**Thanks for all the support. I can’t figure out why it is so touching to get love from strangers (even if they did go to your high school). Inexplicable as it is, it helps. Thanks all!
I’ll now let you return to your bickering. **
No, don’t wanna do that. I would rather return to my OP…
I’m glad you are feeling better. I’ve been where you are, and I know things can look pretty damn grim at times. But I also know that it’s never permanent, and knowing that can help it ease sooner.
You know what I will think of when all else fails? Death. Yep. Death. It’s comin’. Might be 50 years from now, might be 50 minutes…do I want to spend that time being miserable, or feeling alive and joyful?
And another trick, sounds trite, really works: when I’m feeling inexplicably down, lost, melancholy, particularly when there is absolutely no reason of any kind, I try to work up a sweat. Get outside, take a vigorous walk, breath deeply. You would be amazed at how the chemical changes in your body can make such a big difference in your mind. It’s hard to get started when you are in a bad mood, but knowing that it can help the mood to lift is pretty good motivation.
Hang tough,
stoid
*Originally posted by Ice Wolf *
But honestly – when someone writes a positive OP such as this thread’s, why does anyone have to take it as a threat, or something “obnoxious”?
I kind of think there is a difference between trying to make someone feel better about their lot and saying
Life rocks, you suck, so just shut the fuck up and stop whining
No?
*Originally posted by IzzyR *
**]Life rocks, you suck, so just shut the fuck up and stop whining
No? **
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Humor, Izzy… sometimes it’s brutal.
The OP was designed to match the tone of the average Pit post, despit the fact that the contents were somewhat different. The irony was intentional.
stoid
Hilarious. Also
SO SHUT UP already, and start spreading a little joy in the world, instead of sucking it out by being a crabby, impatient, shallow, self-absorbed little shit that doesn’t get it.
stoid
sick o’ yas
You’re a regular riot, Alice.
*Originally posted by IzzyR *
**]You’re a regular riot, Alice. **
Ain’t I?
Lighten up, Izz. It’s not like I said “Hey YOU, IZZYR, shape up, asshole!”.
stoid