Strangely enough, this is intended as a serious question…
At the Winnipeg let’s let the locals meet the out-of-town NDPers mini-dope-get-together-thingy, the question came up as to whether anyone really found “red lace with black straps” lingerie even mildly attractive. I’m pretty certain almost everyone knows the stuff, walk by almost any (straight) adult-store, and you see the stuff in the window… it’s one of the few things the owners can put in the window and not really offend the puritans circling the block. But let’s get serious, does anyone find it even mildly attractive, much less erotic?
I don’t really want to put anyone on the spot here… maybe some of you do find it attractive… if so – COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE ATTRACTION?
Maybe on a pumped-up cartoon girl in a hentai cartoon. On a real woman, though, they just look damned silly. They’re better worn as tops to the Renaissance Fair.
My 700th post, and it involved hentai. shakes head
An ex-boyfriend really liked that stuff. So guess what kind of presents I received for birthdays, Valentine’s Day, X-mas, etc.? After I left him, those things went to the Salvation Army. Free at last!
… actually, that stuff can be sexy, in a trashy-slutty-blue-eye-shadow-and-shocking-red-lipstick way. That can be fun sometimes, in and out of bed. Too much of the “all-natural girl” schtick just doesn’t do it for me!
Its not so much the appearance of the stuff (although that’s pretty great too) as what it signifies. As a boy, before you ever get to see a real bare lady, your images are from porn, where the women are often depicted in that way.
Now as an all grown up man who has seen a real bare lady I am aware that women don’t wander around in this stuff in real life. So if a woman is in my company and wearing that kit it can only mean one thing, sex ahoy! Hence it is arousing for situational rather than aesthetic reasons.
I’m not hung up on women in lingerie, but sometimes, OMG.
Getting at the WHY, though, is a little tougher, I admit. I agree with what Creaky says, that those outfits work mostly because they help your partner play the slutty, dirty, purely sexual role and they help you (the man) see her in that way.
It’s about fantasy and role-playing, I suppose. Not something for everyday, but special occasions I would think.
I don’t want to marry the woman depicted above (I’m already married, thank you very much), but I’m very intrigued at the thought of jumping into the sack with her. I’m back to the fantasy aspect of the issue. That’s what these outfits are about.
Would you rather have your Christmas presents wrapped or unwrapped?
That’s my take on it. As someone else already said, lingerie (nice lingerie, not the Frederick’s of Hollywood stuff) adds to the appeal. Is it required? Nope.
I am confused. Are we talking about specifically red lace lingerie with black straps here, or just lingerie?
Do you mean its tacky to have the lingerie not match the straps, or that the appeal of lacy lingerie is not understood in general?
I’m a woman who likes lingerie, although on a day-to-day basis I do nothing more than have the bra and panties match (black lace with black lace, white flowered with white flowered,etc.) I certainly understand the appeal, though. It’s…pretty. And feminine. Although I have many female friends that sleep in t-shirts and boxers, and just wear whatever old underwear is around, I would feel a little icky doing that. I like to feel put-together and girly. Besides, lace and satin, etc, dont have to be uncomfortable. Get the kind with some lycra, and they actually are smoother and stay put better than cotton.
Funny, though, when I opened this thread, I immediately thought of Laeticia Casta in the black and red outfit-
Pablito beat me to the link! That pic demonstrates to me why lingerie can be sexy, maybe because my boyfriend and I
are both big fans of stockings, thigh highs, vintage look lingerie, etc. Plus, hey, it’s Laeticia Casta!
Not the most practical day-to-day attire, though, so
around our house that stuff generally gets regulated to dress-up time and the occasional surprise at the movies or dinner. Bottom line, it makes ME feel sexy, and he goes gaga, so what’s to lose? As long as you have a healthy sense of humor, a strong relationship, and don’t REQUIRE
such accoutrements every time, its just some occasional icing on the cake.
I gotta admit, I don’t mind the red and black lingerie in the linked photograph. I have a thing for corset-like tops and would love to wear them with a really long and full skirt. What I don’t like are those latex bras with holes cut in the nipple. Ick. To me, that’s trashy (in the bad way).
Okay, we’re not being properly sign-tific here. What we need is for a bunch of the Doper ladies to dress up in their Victorian best, get some pictures taken, and email them to me and any other guys interested in determining what the attraction is.
I’m reminded of the scene in Working Girl where Melanie Griffith is getting dressed up in all that stuff… it’s not so much the wearing that her guy got off on, but watching her put it on…
I love lingere. Own tons of it. The hubby adores it as well.
Lots of it is red, and lots of it is black.
None of it is both red and black. Something about the red and black together - nope, nope, nope.
However… the primarily red with just a bit of black corset in that picture is actually quite nice. I think the problem is that usually, we’re talking about a fairly cheesy/sleazy combination of red and black. As that picture shows, the two can be combined nicely - but usually, they’re not.
But here’s a question for the women that don’t like wearing the trashy lingerie (is the stuff at that website mostly what we’re talking about?):
The one or two times you wore it for your fella, did his reactions not make you feel sexy? This is often the explanation I hear from women who do like to wear it.
Specifically, Mrs. Tygr. She greatly enjoys driving me crazy. In fact, she actually wants to shop at the Frederick’s store (heck, we were getting their catalog for a while), but she insists on losing her pregnancy weight first. I promised I’d take her on an unlimited shopping spree the minute she gets back to where she’s comfortable.
One time, I bought a GF an utterly trashy bit of lingerie from Fredericks - a backless (and I mean backless - just a strap running from the back of the neck to the crotch) lavender mesh teddy. May I just say, yum!!
The teddy became a signal between us - on days she was really in the mood, she wore it under her normal clothes. Sometimes, she’d flash me a bit of it during the day - she’d pull her collar to the side to show it to me (of course, she always did this when I was in the middle of conversation with someone else or some such), and sometimes I just discover it at the end of the day, and those nights were special.
Did the teddy make her more attractive to me? No. Did it get me in the mood? No - I was already there :D. But it did make things more exciting. Why? I guess because, while you always think your SO is in the mood when you are, it’s a good thing to know.
Sua
P.S. The same GF bought me a pair of silk boxers, and they kinda worked the same way (although flashing her was somewhat more difficult ;)).
Creaky, Owl, and plnnr, are all on the right track. When a woman is wearing lingerie, she is sending out the “I feel sexy” signals, with her greatest gifts, nicely wrapped. That she is doing this as a turn on, makes it a turn on for me. I also think that how it feels to the touch is part of it. I like the feel of the different textures of skin, and nylon or silk.
Tygr asks: “The one or two times you wore it for your fella, did his reactions not make you feel sexy? This is often the explanation I hear from women who do like to wear it.”
No. I look terrible in red. If I were to wear bright red lingerie, I would feel very unattractive. I know this, because my ex-bf used to ask me to wear this bright red thingy for him and I hated hated hated it.
Also, if I were to wear any item of lingerie which was scratchy, silly looking, confining, up my butt, or otherwise uncorfortable, I would feel not very much in the mood for booty. Rather, I would feel rather put upon/dressed in clown suit.
OTOH, when wearing lingerie I feel comfortable in and which I believe suits my figure, I feel sexy, etc. I prefer satiny fabrics and colors like green and blue and black. Not red. Never pink. Bottom line, I have to find myself attractive in whatever lingerie I wear.
