Did anyone else find it odd right off the bat that the suspect in the Texas shooting was described as having blue eyes? Eyewitness identification is tenuous enough; this sighting occurred in a brief traumatic moment, and in the dark no less.
It did not surprise me to hear the new version of events.
*there are people I have known for years and seen at close quarters, and I couldn’t tell you what their eye color is.
So you are going to cyber-stalk me on a messageboard nobody reads, because I post on a messageboard that nobody reads. Not sure I agree 100% with your detective work there, Huey.
Which is it? Are you going to demonstrate your social, intellectual, and penile inadequacies by repeating yourself, or give into your well-founded fears of looking like a bigoted albeit amusing buffoon with the moral depth of a cat’s litter box?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Regards,
Shodan
For those who wish to discuss Huey’s manifest flaws, there is now a thread for that.
I’m thinking of calling the cops to do a wellness test on you, you crazy bastard.
Back in the day, when we first adopted our son (he is also Korean), there was a local crackpot, by name Elroy Stock, who shared some of Huey’s attitudes and opinions. Mr. Stock sent us one of the kinds of letters mentioned in the link, expressing his “concerns” about children who were adopted trans-racially. It was quite a long letter, ten pages or so at least, and it read - at least, the first page read, I didn’t read the whole thing - rather like a Huey Freeman post.
I pitched the letter.
Opinions are like assholes - everybody’s got one, and some of them don’t smell too good.
Huey old bean, I appreciate your concern for my daughter, but don’t fret either of your brain cells about her - she seemed fine when she visited last night to tell us about how her new job is going and her Zumba class and some new dishes she was trying out for dinner, and etc. etc. etc. (she could politely be referred to as having a gift for conversation).
OK, that was a lie - I have the same appreciation for your concern as I did for the late unlamented Elroy’s ravings, or the stuff the dog barfs up when his food doesn’t agree with him.
What I am trying to get across here is that no one in their right mind thought that Elroy Stock had a point, and neither did I. 
And I don’t believe you have convinced many even here that you have a point either. The only point you are proving is that it is perfectly possible to think that someone is a pus-dripping anal fistula even if they are a black pus-dripping anal fistula.
I won’t suggest you get help. I will just suggest that you try not to be such a hemorrhoid-sucker. I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Regards,
Shodan
I’ll probably regret rejoining this thread since as a white liberal I am the “enemy”, and my opinions carry no weight, but I think this crystallizes the difficulty I have with some of your broad brushes.
In the first part assign blame to white liberals for staying on the side lines and not doing enough understand the victim (and to follow the analogy intervening to protect the victim from bully presumably?). In the second part you state that due to their lack of experience as a black person, white people are incapable of being other than bystanders. It seems odd to me to assign blame to someone for not doing something that they are by definition incapable of. Rather like blaming a quadriplegic for not saving a child from drowning.
I fully acknowledge that blacks get the short end of the stick, and I also acknowledge that it is not entirely possible for whites to fully understand what it means to be a black person in America. What I disagree with is whether a white person who is doing his best under the circumstances to understand and support racial equality, is immoral for not achieving the impossible.
There are a host of political examples that I could give but (in the interest of time) let me give you a real-life, personal example of the bystander effect that I’m referring to. Several months ago, Mrs. Freeman and I went to a dinner with some (white) co-workers from her work. There were about 7 - 8 of us including my wife, and we were the only people of color in the group. We were sitting at the table, eating chips and salsa, having pleasant conversation, waiting for our order to arrive. Then one of the white men, who is a manager at a local credit union, told a story of a black man approaching him to cash a check. It went something like this (paraphrased):
Black man: <glances down> Hey! Nice ring! Where did you get it from?
White man: Oh this? It’s a fake.
The punchline of his joke/story was that he deliberately lied to the black guy because he was afraid the black man could rob him of his wedding band after his shift. Keep in mind, this man’s race was deliberately brought up by our white storyteller, this is said in one of the most whitest cities and arguably one of the most whitest States in the Union. The crime rate in this city (and this State) is very low and, in relative terms, the murder rate is nearly non-existent. That didn’t matter because the white people in attendance laughed hysterically.
Although it was uncomfortable, we were polite. We didn’t leave. We didn’t say anything because we knew that if we left, Mrs. Freeman’s boss could have retaliated and her job could potentially be at risk. Further, while this ruined our evening, I knew that if I were to speak up, white fragility would ensure the evening would have been ruined for everyone. This is because white people go apeshit when they are checked on their racism. So, we just ate the contemporary racism that these white folks were serving. But what hurt my wife was that a particular female co-worker who she felt was a friend and close to, laughed the hardest. It would have been analogous to us telling a story that weaponized stereotypes of white people, then laughing about it. That would not have gone well.
First, white people do this shit all of the time. White people bear witness to racism and they keep silent. They don’t say anything. I’m not digging in your past, but think about the racism you’ve seen from other whites, where you kept silent, where you didn’t say anything, where you shook your head but didn’t confront it. That’s the issue. Second, it highlights that white folks, while thinking themselves not racist, still harboring racist thoughts and assumptions. Lastly, from the perspective of a person of color, it cements the idea that white folks lack empathy. It confirms their monstrous nature. This is because if the roles were reversed, a person of color would go out of their way to ensure that the white person feels comfortable in a majority-minority group. It would’ve been the* human *thing to do.
While the romantic in me would like to suggest that it shows the inherent inhumanity of humanity, and “something something in-group majorities always yadda yadda”…and the snark want to say “something something confirmation bias”…
…that’s the reality in which you and other Black people live daily. And it’s…yeah, monstrous is a pretty good word for it.
A lot of us are trying to be better. It’s hard and slow and we’re still rewarded by (white) society for being shitty. But a lot of us are trying.
(The other shitty part about that story? You’re now those people’s “some of my friends.”)
Personally, I’m of the opinion that you’re a troll doing a shtick, but on the off chance you’re not, you’re the most delicate buttercup I’ve ever seen on the board. And I include BigT in that.
Seriously, one “joke” of questionable taste “ruined your evening”? Grow a fucking skin. Also, have the balls to confront the person rather than whine about it here. Want to make a change? Get off your ass, stop adopting the “Let the other guy do it” attitude and do something.
And yes, I’ve dealt with exactly this. I can’t even begin to count how many times (before the mid-90s when the idea finally started to die out) I had to talk to/discuss/educate/berate people for using phrases like “He really Jewed me down on that deal.”
“My people experience and have experienced terrible, horrific racism and oppression, and I just got over it, so you should too.”
No. Cute, but not fact-based. Try “Sitting on your ass bitching about how your evening was like, totes ruined by one comment rather than actually doing something to change it is a productive strategy.”
As he says, white fragility is real.
Once riding in old Baltimore,
Heart-filled, head-filled with glee,
I saw a Baltimorean
Keep looking straight at me.
Now I was eight and very small,
And he was no whit bigger,
And so I smiled, but he poked out
His tongue, and called me, ‘Nigger.’
I saw the whole of Baltimore
From May until December;
Of all the things that happened there
That’s all that I remember.
Bullshit. No way this went down like you say it did.
That was my first instinct too, to call bullshit on that story.
Why? Why would you automatically assume the story is bullshit? It’s uncomfortable, but it’s entirely plausible.
(Also, providing a source for Evil E’s poem above: Countee Cullen | Poetry Foundation)
Huey’s already admitted that he lied to make himself look better, because he thinks white people can’t tell the difference between lies and virtue signaling. This may just be one of the times when he didn’t admit it.
Regards,
Shodan
Is it possible for a white person in America to be a non-racist? if not, what can an individual white person do to become a non-racist and who decides if a white person passes that test? I don’t feel like a racist. I really don’t. I’ve never been told by anyone that I’m a racist, but I genuinely don’t want to be labeled as one. It can’t be a change in my heart or mind because I never once in my life thought of someone else as inferior to me due to skin color or anything else for that matter. If a white person acknowledges that they have privileges that other minorities don’t, is that enough? If not, what else can I do? I’m being completely serious about this. How do I prove that I’m not racist to people who think that whites in America are inherently racist?
Also possible that the joke was told to emphasize the ridiculousness of the white guy thinking he was about to be robbed, and there was over-the-top laughter to emphasize in front of the black guests that oh no, we aren’t like those white people. :smack:
Still a dumbass joke better left untold.
*Franklin Ajaye had a gag where he talked about walking down a city street one night, and the white couple walking ahead of him kept glancing back at him apprehensively. He said he was so offended, he went ahead and robbed them (uneasy laughter).
Nice, but not the point. Huby, as an interweb warrior paints himself as the bastard love-child of Samuel L. Jackson in whatever role you think he was most badass in and Shaft. Ready to take on ANYONE because Hugh is so sooper-tuff. But in reality, his only response to what he feels is a HUGE racist insult is to snivel into his chardonnay and think " 
". If it was such a problem, you’d think such a tough guy would fucking have the nads to SAY something. If it’s his wife’s boss, say something gently (“I’m sure you were unaware if it, but the joke you told make me feel uncomfortable and unwelcome here…so much so, that it gave me a tummy ache. I wanted to let you know only because I know it was unintentional and I know you wouldn’t do anything to deliberately hurt someone”)
But no. He just sits there, weeping silent tears of anguish.