Locked thread in Elections

This puppy.

I can see Bone’s thinking in locking my thread. I kind of brought it on myself by introducing the example of the leaked reports but the scope of the thread was intended to be far wider, ie the attempts in general to delegitimize the election. Any room for manoeuvre here, eg reposting the question without reference to the leaking and speaking in general terms?

No problem at all if there isn’t, I can just introduce it into one of the existing threads and try to broaden the discussion a little there.

BTW my first locked thread; I feel as if I’ve had my cherry popped. Bone, you were so gentle. :slight_smile:

I see no issue with a thread about attempts to delegitimize an election past or present, and/or the merits, demerits, or existence of such attempts. It is reasonable that such discussion may involve talks of the recent leaked documents but as a starting point I think it’s more organized to contain that topic to the existing thread that is currently active.

That well was so poisoned, it qualified for superfunding.

Yeah, that thread was ruined during the OP. Good call in closing it.

I think Bone misread the OP or I did or we both did. I thought it was about the Democrats’ efforts to de-legitimize the 2016 election and not just documents. It’s more than leaked documents, it’s a also Hamilton electors, the Emoluments Clause, the talk of future impeachment, (un)qualifications, etc.

Yes, unless I’m misinterpreting Bone it wasn’t closed because of any ‘well poisoning’, but simply because the issue was covered elsewhere. Nice attempt by some to inject politics into the decision though.

Well, I’ve got no Bone to pick. A move to the Pit would also have been appropriate.

Well, as Bone pointed out, there already was a Pit thread. So the maximal thing you could want would have been a move+merge, which is pretty far to go. (Especially with the inevitable post-merge confusion.)

Bone considered the Pit move and decided against it. Like it or not, at least it was a conscious and intentional decision, not a knee-jerk. And, in perfect fairness, that’s all you can ask for.

I’ve given no indication of not liking the decision or the level of intention behind it. I’ve simply pointed out a reason for closure beyond the stated one.

Just to emphasize that I thought the decision a fair and reasonable one too, despite the fact that it makes this thread no fun at all.

It is my opinion that the OP was not written in a way that encouraged honest discussion of the broader topic, as you indicate was your intention. It rightly belonged in the Pit. As Bone noted there was already a thread that more or less covered it.

You could legitimately start a new thread, but I would take it up a notch writing your OP. It could go in Elections or GD, I think. It’s an interesting topic. It’s certainly happened, historically speaking, as long as there have been leaders. So bring it out again, rephrase a bit (if you’re actually interested in discussing the phenomena of delegitimizing election results or political leaders), and try again. Maybe don’t poison the well quite so much this time, 'kay?

Well, yeah it pretty much was closed because of well poisoning. If there hadn’t already been a Pit thread, it would have been moved there. And that’s because the OP was a rant. Rants are generally considered well poisoning.

Thank you for saying that much better than I did.