Well now I want the beginning of next season to be Moebius saying “Didn’t you used to be a crocodile?”
I don’t think its necessarily this. I think Loki made a mistake. He said “someone bad is coming”, but we are dealing with a time traveler. There is not such thing as “coming”, the moment the Kang variants became a possibility they had always been there. That’s why there was a statue of him there, he wasn’t coming, he was just there from the start. Mophius and uhh B-15? didn’t remember him for the same reason they didn’t remember their past lives, Kang mind wiped them.
Again, the point is not that they don’t remember HIM. It is that they, running the TVA, don’t recognize a Loki. It is multiverse in which the TVA doesn’t have to deal with Lokis. That’s a different multiverse.
That and what exactly does a TVA do in multiverse with multiple timelines? What is their job in this reality?
Hunt and destroy rival Kangs?
That’s exactly what Mobius and B-15 seemed confused about.
It never ceases to amaze me how different people can watch the same thing and have opposite reactions. I thought Majors was awful, just absolutely dreadful in this part. I’ve never seen someone working so hard to be non-chalant. There was almost sweat pouring off of his face he was trying so hard. Mileage obviously varies, though
In their world it’s an agency that’s always existed working openly for a Kang and trying to enforce one timeline with that Kang in charge (and no Lokis ever). As far as they’re concerned, the branches just started ( I think)
EVERY thing I’ve read/seen has raved about him but he didn’t do it for me. I like my hammy villains to be more over the top. I’m not giving up on him for maybe the other Kangs we’re sure to see will sell me, but I’m in the few with you.
That at least seemed consistent with what the character was experiencing.
I thought Majors was the weakest part of Lovecraft Country but while he was not great here I didn’t think he stunk up the place. Not on the same level though as almost anyone else on the show.
I think that was the character itself. Here’s a being that has always known what was going to happen next for countless millions of years, suddenly facing uncertainty. He was trying to act nonchalant about it, but was actually quite nervous about what was to come.
My thought is that it goes in a bit of a cycle, but with slight differences.
Kang took the TVA from the timekeepers, and left them as the figureheads for the next iteration, staying the man behind the curtain.
Now Loki/Sylvie takes it from Kang, and leaves him as the figurehead for the next iteration, remaining hidden herself.
Loki exists, he’s just off the TVA’s radar, because Sylvie made it so.
I’m really not at all confident that these writers can pull off the time-travel story they seem to be setting up for season 2. I certainly hope they do! But looking back at season 1, the main plot was actually really linear, especially with the way they set up the TVA time syncing up with the times they travelled to.
No, sorry, that would only account for about the last 20% of the scene. For the first 80% he knows exactly what’s going to happen and explains that clearly - he even prints out the script. And he was trying too hard right from the very start. For me, it was like he was standing there shouting: “I AM COOL AND NOTHING BOTHERS ME” with a rictus grin on his face. I don’t mean to argue about this - evaluating acting is subjective and I am happy for those who enjoyed his performance. I did not enjoy it one bit. (For the records, I can’t say I liked the actress playing Sylvie, either, with whom I had the opposite problem; I found her characterization quite bland. But I loved Tom Hiddleston’s and Owen Wilson’s performances, as well as the actress who played the main TVA “guard/enforcer/whatever-they-are” - she was delightful).
I think what he was saying was “I AM FEARLESS BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT’S ABOUT TO HAPPEN… until I don’t, and I fear this means disaster for the universe and/or me.”
The point where He Who Remains suddenly doesn’t know what’s going to happen reminds me of what happens when The Doctor reaches the end of the transcript, reading from 1969, in the Doctor Who episode “Blink”.
“I don’t know what stopped you talking, but I can guess. They’re coming. The Angels are coming for you.”
I was thinking along the same lines. That Sylvie is secretly in charge and keeps Loki of the TVA’s radar so another Lokie doesn’t come a long and displace her.
I agree that that’s what the actor was trying to convey. To my mind, he did not succeed. But if you enjoyed it, more power to you! As I said, evaluating a performance has a high degree of subjectivity.
Well, that sucked.
I loved the series. Loki and Sylvie, Loki and Mobius, Loki and several other Lokis - great dynamics, great conflict. Setting up the TVA and then abandoning it for two episodes to do a Dr Who-esque adventure - loved it. Was really excited to see the final episode and the resolution of the various strands - not the plot point of who was behind the TVA precisely, but the various conflicts between characters being worked out.
Didn’t get that. Got some clown I’d never heard of and don’t care about giving me an exposition dump when I should have been watching the heroes triumph over adversity by applying the hard won lessons from their adventures. Instead got Loki showing character growth and denying a throne (good but done so quickly you could miss it) and Sylvie going backwards, reverting to kill-em-all mentality in a crisis. Moebius goes to confront Renslayer: this is a moment of high drama. The two have been close friends and allies for literally time immemorial. Confronted with the truth, she stuck by her duty and he chose to fight for freedom. What a scene must be forthcoming! Then she knocks him down and leaves.
They completely abandoned the story they were telling to do a trailer for phase 4. I don’t mind cliffhangers. I don’t mind setting up some further aspects of the mythos. But I do mind when they come at the expense of actually telling your story. Marvel/Disney+ are in danger of getting into Lost territory - so keen on setting up the next big McGuffin you don’t do the number one job of dealing with the current narrative.
What do we know about Loki that we didn’t know at the end of episode 5? Or Sylvie? Or Moebius or Rennslayer? Nothing. They moved around and did stuff but they didn’t change or grow. So what was the point of episode 6?
Sometimes shows and movies aren’t what you wanted them or expected them to be. It’s all subjective. These TV shows are both serving to entertain and setup more movies and tv shows in the future. WandaVision setup the next phase for the Scarlett Witch, FATWS setup Captain America 4, and Loki setup the Multiverse of Madness that we all already know is coming. Comic books do the same thing, not every individual story is definitively ended with no cliff hanger or no lead in to the next story. It’s pretty fundamental to the genre.