lol! First world problems!!!!1111

[even_sven]

But, but, but I actually never said any of that. I didn’t mention the third world, and if I had I would have said what MoL said. I actually agree 100% with MoL’s position, which is why this is so weird.

[drpepper]

@MeanOldLady

She types smugly into her keyboard, thinking this has something to do with some “job” she has, as if anyone cares about where she works.

You got me! I’m stalking her. I’ve never brought up Cameeroon even once (go ahead – look it up), but she can say I have if she likes. She’s probably mixing me up with someone else, or more likely, it is pure fantasy like many of her posts.

Ah, but you see, what I called her out on was yet another “People in different places aren’t like us!” post in this thread. You see, even sven is the worst kind of racist there is. It’s pretty easy to stamp out statements like “Black people are bad” or “People in poor countries are savages,” but there’s a different kind of insidious racism that lies in statements like “The dark-skinned people of the third world don’t have small woes like we do in the West,” one that dismisses the fact those people are, well, just people, even though they look different and have strange, fancy customs. It may be ostensibly harmless because it doesn’t say anything overly bad about Other People, and is quieter than a lynch mob, but it is no less founded on this notion that “They Are Not Like Us” on some kind of fundamental, human level. There’s no doubt that cultural differences exist – let’s make that clear before someone says some bullshit – but in her bizarre differentiation of all Mystical Dark People and their universal humility, she doesn’t realize she’s actually perpetuating a condescending, subversive Not Like Us attitude. Pardon me for regarding her school of thought as racist drooling, and being a tad hostile toward that frame of mind.

That is what I was pointing out by quoting Zinga’s post about “First World Problems” potentially being more offensive to the people in the third world than it is to the spoiled white people it mocks. I don’t take issue with FWP or WPP per se (although yes, it is jerkishly dismissive to wave away a complaint about anything other than the Holocaust), but I do ask why the underlying assumption is that people in the third world aren’t bothered by petty shit. I liked that someone pointed out, “Hey, uhh, that term is cool and all, but I’m pretty sure they’re often irritated by dumb shit too over there, you guys.” While their specific complaints might often be different from ours, small grievances aren’t some kind of Western “luxury,” as they were described. They’re people too, you know. With feelings! Feelings that sometimes get worked up over very asinine shit. But sven doesn’t realize that, because the Mystical Dark People are special and different.

Reading over it, it probably would have made more sense to people reading if I’d quoted both posts I had in mind and issued my respective praise and criticism, but I was tired and drunk, and saying, “My god, you’re a bitch” was just easier.

Yeah, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but you really come off as a nasty, vitriolic little piece of work here. Christ.

[Kolga]

@MeanOldLady

Okay!

W00T! Let’s find the appropriate same-sex marriage state.

@Zeriel

Hey, I saw her first!

Ooo, fight fight fight! (not really, we can share)

@Covered_In_Bees

Guys fighting over a bitch? All of you guys take her, please!

Hi, my name is kolga, and I’m a female. Please check your assumptions at the door.

@drpepper

Yeah, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but you really come off as a nasty, vitriolic little piece of work here. Christ.

even sven deserves every last bit of vitriol she’s receiving in this thread, and more. She’s a condescending, patronizing, arrogant person who’s gotten a little experience and thinks it makes her All That And A Bag Of Chips, instead of someone who has a little information about a small number of other cultures. As much as she (and her defenders) would like to pretend, living in other cultures for a few years doesn’t make someone The Expert On The World.

[Zeriel]

@Kolga

(not really, we can share)

Hi, my name is kolga, and I’m a female.

I like where this is going! Giggity! </quagmire>

[Inner_Stickler]

This is all really interesting and by that I mean boring as shit for two reasons. One, I remember what even sven was like before she joined the Peace Corps, which you have clearly either forgotten or never knew and two, she said jack shit about other cultures or The World in this thread so those of us not nursing raging hate boners would like you to unleash your keyboard diatribes in threads where they, you know, fit.

[Odesio]

I generally find that even sven has something valuable to add to a lot of threads. She doesn’t strike me as a know-it-all in the least.

[Cat_Whisperer]

@Kolga

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even sven deserves every last bit of vitriol she’s receiving in this thread, and more. She’s a condescending, patronizing, arrogant person who’s gotten a little experience and thinks it makes her All That And A Bag Of Chips, instead of someone who has a little information about a small number of other cultures. As much as she (and her defenders) would like to pretend, living in other cultures for a few years doesn’t make someone The Expert On The World.

Her little experience and little information about some other cultures is about 100% more experience and information than most of the rest of us have.

[Kolga]

@Cat_Whisperer

Her little experience and little information about some other cultures is about 100% more experience and information than most of the rest of us have.

Speak for yourself. There are a number of members of this board who have more experiences and information about other cultures than she does, and who don’t manifest that understanding in white privilege.

I’m not claiming to be one of them, by the way. And I’m certainly not saying that she shouldn’t share her experiences with us. But she could find a way to do so without including her usual condescending snottiness.

[Cat_Whisperer]

Note I said, “Most of us,” not “All of us,” and I stand by that - most of us haven’t spent years in Cameroon and China. I won’t argue that she is rubbing some people the wrong way (I’m not one of them - I don’t find her all that irritating, and she usually seems open to discussion), but I don’t particularly want to fight about this either - she does have some unique perspectives, and I would miss them if she disappeared.

[Scissorjack]

@Cat_Whisperer

Her little experience and little information about some other cultures is about 100% more experience and information than most of the rest of us have.

And she intensely annoys the people who have travelled because she misuses her experiences so badly by preaching and condescending and pontificating. Her tales of her travels have little to do with where she has been and who she has met, and everything about presenting a tableau of herself in various poses with the world as not much more than an exotic backdrop.

[Kolga]

@Cat_Whisperer

Note I said, “Most of us,” not “All of us,” and I stand by that - most of us haven’t spent years in Cameroon and China. I won’t argue that she is rubbing some people the wrong way (I’m not one of them - I don’t find her all that irritating, and she usually seems open to discussion), but I don’t particularly want to fight about this either - she does have some unique perspectives, and I would miss them if she disappeared.

Meh. I’ve got friends, relatives, and loved ones who’ve traveled more extensively, for longer periods of time, in more areas, than she has. Some of those are missionaries, some are NGO workers, some are Peace Corp volunteers, and some are military personnel. None of those prance around like they’re experts on the places they’ve visited. None of them pretend to be all-wise and all-knowing the way she does.

Her experiences would be far more interesting if she wouldn’t present them in the matrix of “High Priestess of Cultural Experiences.”

[Krav_Manga]

Ah, but you see, what I called her out on was yet another “People in different places aren’t like us!” post in this thread.

Bullshit. Where did she say anything remotely like this you lying bint.

[MeanOldLady]

@even_sven

But, but, but I actually never said any of that. I didn’t mention the third world, and if I had I would have said what MoL said. I actually agree 100% with MoL’s position, which is why this is so weird.

Lol, ok bud.

@Kolga

even sven deserves every last bit of vitriol she’s receiving in this thread, and more. She’s a condescending, patronizing, arrogant person who’s gotten a little experience and thinks it makes her All That And A Bag Of Chips, instead of someone who has a little information about a small number of other cultures. As much as she (and her defenders) would like to pretend, living in other cultures for a few years doesn’t make someone The Expert On The World.

Aye, indeed, but I don’t even care about unjustified knowitallism. Like, in general. It is the “No no no – the folks Over There don’t have the luxury of feeling like We do” angle that grates. It was the 10 billionth example of voicing a thought process that says We are not like You, which is (clearly!) one of my pet annoyances.

But that’s all I’ll say about that in this thread. Hijack over. I have some White People Problems of my own to deal with. Like, for example, the bar that had really crappy toilet paper. I mean seriously – quilted Charmin or GTFO. Plus, holy fuck, I have to go to work tomorrow. Today really. You’d better goddamn believe I’m going to complain about the aftermath of Thirsty Thursday.

I’m not even white and I have white people problems. :confetti:

[Krav_Manga]

It was the 10 billionth example of voicing a thought process that says We are not like You, which is (clearly!) one of my pet annoyances.

Can you quote this example you refer to?

[Oliveritaly]

@MeanOldLady

I’m not even white and I have white people problems. :confetti:

I’m sorry to have to do this to you Mean Old Lady but I’m going to have to turn you in to the white people problem authorities … you’re going to be charged with having normal everyday problems while being nonwhite.

I just hope you learn from this experience …

[MsWhatsit]

1. even sven’s first post in this thread was annoying, IMO, but not because she was referencing her hip Cameroon cred, but because she used the word “celebrating” in an annoying way. People who post “first-world problems, lolz!” are not celebrating anything. Usually they are being douches. Occasionally they are being funny. But not celebrating, either way.

2. MOL really hasn’t referenced Cameroon except in this thread. Yes, I checked. Why? Because I live in the first world and this is how I choose to spend my time. Deal with it.

3. My MacBook Pro stopped making the startup “bong” sound and I’m a little worried that might mean there’s some lurking problem. FIRST WORLD REPRESENT. pounds fist on chest

[VinylTurnip]

@Nzinga_Seated

Hey, if I gotta get lumped, I’m lumping with you, baby. I just can’t help noticing that you don’t like the chick. Haaa! Folks are all, “Gasp! MOL! How out of left field of you to attack sven!” I’m like, hello, she don’t dig her. No biggie. Sven will live.

Now you and **MOL **kiss while you take turns spanking even sven for being very naughty and pretentious.

Okay? ACTION!

[lorene]

@Kolga

I love you. Marry me.

@MeanOldLady

Okay.

@Kolga

W00T! Let’s find the appropriate same-sex marriage state.

Ooo, fight fight fight! (not really, we can share)

Come to Massachusetts. We have same-sex marriage. Not legal bigamy, but I’m sure we can work something out.

@MsWhatsit

1. even sven’s first post in this thread was annoying, IMO, but not because she was referencing her hip Cameroon cred, but because she used the word “celebrating” in an annoying way.
   <snip>

2. My MacBook Pro stopped making the startup “bong” sound and I’m a little worried that might mean there’s some lurking problem. FIRST WORLD REPRESENT. pounds fist on chest

You come, too, 'kay?

[Cheshire_Human]

@RandMcnally

List of First World Problems

“Historic watch survives massive explosion”… How is that a first world problem? WTF??? Oh, wait. That’s an ad. Never mind.

[Cheshire_Human]

@MeanOldLady

But sven doesn’t realize that, because the Mystical Dark People are special and different.

You forgot “We have much to learn from them”, Nonny.