This bothered me Yesterday, but I put it on the back burner until Today. How are you so sure that 1)there is a Godfather role at all and 2) that Sauron is the role name for the presumed Godfather?
Thanks!
Well first of all, **Suburban **didn’t use a fake name, he used his real one (Denethor) which is reasonable since his character could feasibly be on either side. While **Natlaw **did use a fake name (Glorfindel), he waited as long as he could and sort of whispered it inthis post:
So even if **Mahaloth **shorted the Scum one name (like in Harry Potter), they would be fine given that **Suburban **didn’t use a fake name.
This bothered me Yesterday, but I put it on the back burner until Today. How are you so sure that 1)there is a Godfather role at all and 2) that Sauron is the role name for the presumed Godfather?
You don’t think that’s a reasonable assumption? If there’s a godfather, I bet it’s Sauron. I’m not saying there’s one for sure. I said if he thought I was Sauron, aka a godfather, then an investigation would be worthless.
The problem is that you don’t give any indication this is an assumption. You are stating is as if it is fact. It is a small difference, granted, but that’s where this game is won or lost.
I’m a bit concerned that Natlaw had name info on Astral from some other source, but my previous analysis of Astral’s behavior, especially on Day One, leads me to believe that he’s most likely Scum.
actually i would think that if there is a godfather type role that the last name they would be given would be sauron. i mean anyone claiming to be sauron and then mentioning that, oh by the by i am town aligned, even with a dick town investigation i think, would be ripe for lynching.
Which is precisely why I’d rather wait until toMorrow for that. We have a Scum to lynch right now, anyway, so there’s no need for another one so soon. But between now and then, there’s a chance (a small one, but what have we got to lose?) that a Scum might claim one of those folks’ names, and we’d get a counterclaim. As for giving the Scum another Night to prepare, if they have any sense at all, they’ve been preparing for this all game.
On the topic of the Godfather, before Natlaw’s death, I would actually have guessed that the godfather-power would be given to Saruman (whom everyone trusted at the beginning of the story), not to Sauron (who, canonically, was unable to take on a pleasing form ever since the Fall of Numenor). Obviously, this has turned out not to be the case, but Town didn’t know that at the time.
hey, drain i know what you are saying but in this canon claiming sauron and also claiming town makes not a whole bunch of sense. i mean i could see sauron being a blow through killer type, a recruiter type, or maybe someone who knows who other town roles are. but i just don’t see sauron as being disguised as town.
Who in the world has argued that Sauron would be town? I am arguing that **Astral **seems to already ***know ***that Sauron is not only in the game, but also is the Godfather.
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all game. Are you seriously contending that Sauron might not be in the game? Given that the enemy forces are called SAURON and his minions? And you seem stuck on the fact that I assumed he’d be the godfather.
In Harry Potter mafia, Voldemort was the godfather, no? I don’t remember him using polyjuice potion in the books.
i was merely observing that if sauron is in this game (which i would kind of expect) and that if he was a gf (which who knows at this point) that if a town dick came back with a town read on someone that later claimed to be sauron i would find that highly suspect. especially if that person claimed to be town aligned.
If that’s the most ridiculous thing you’ve read in this game, you haven’t been paying attention. Until the Mod tells me otherwise, I contend that the Town players don’t KNOW there is a player with the role of Sauron in this game. Sure it’s a good possibility, but it isn’t unheard of to have key characters from the canon absent if their presence doesn’t fit the color of that particular game. I’m concerned about your lack of skepticism.
What? This doesn’t make any sort of sense at all. I find it extremely, extremely unlikely that a Sauron godfather would later claim that he or she was Sauron after being investigated as town. No one in their right mind would do this. Instead, they’d claim some other cover role, either one that they dreamed up or one given to them by Mahaloth.
What on earth can you possibly mean by this, peeker?
Agreed. Being a godfather isn’t about having a safe fake claim, rather it’s about investigating as town when checked out by a town inv.
Anyone who claimed Sauron in this game but then expected us to believe they were town would soon be doing the hemp fandango no matter how many inv’s exonerated them.