LotR:RotK:EE:Documentaries. The Mind Boggles.

cckerberos, that must definitely be a Japan-vs-US edition thing. I have all three (US) EE sets and they are quite consistent in packaging. There’s only one thing to do: Go out and buy the other two US EE’s and also get online and order the Japan ROTK:EE so you’ll have two complete sets. :slight_smile:

I was actually kind of tempted to get the Japanese RotK:EE, but it retails for roughly $100, so getting the other 2 US editions would be a cheaper option :slight_smile:

Thanks, Glee, I’ll have to take a look when I get home.

One of the hardest parts of ROTK is trying to explain why Frodo went on the boat at the end to non-Tolkienites. For the past 11 months I’ve been saying “The EE will clear it up.”

I was disappointed they didn’t put a few extra lines on why he had to go. Even a few from the book.

It’s not that hard to explain.

“Frodo was so badly scarred in the soul from bearing the Ring for so long, and by what happened on Mt. Doom, that he had to go to the West to live without pain.”

I don’t think we ever hear Viggo either. I wonder why.

Anyone know how they did the commentaries with the actors? They were obviously not all there together. Sounded like we had:
Frodo & Sam
Merry & Pippin
Theoden & Eowyn (& Eomer?)…maybe
And everyone else on their own.

Forgive me if someone else has already addressed this. Frodo “gets” to go into the West to the Grey Havens, because he was a Ringbearer. IIRC, Sam (in the book) also goes to the Grey Havesns after a very long life, because he also was a Ringbearer(for a short time).

I remember PJ saying that they had played with Arwen and Aragorn’s characters and that “somewhere” there is footage of the two of them meeting in Rivendell as youths.

I wish all these bits were made available instead of just talking about them.

One thing that I admire so much about Tolkien, and PJ for keeping true to it, is the complex relationship between Aragorn and Eowyn. They pulled it off magnificently and I was thrilled to see more of it on the EE.

Yes, he “gets” to go into the West for that reason. But he “has” to go into the West for the reason I posted. Remaining in Middle-Earth was becoming unbearable for him.

I agree.I just got the soundtrack and am playing the Annie Lennox song over and over again. It is so haunting. And the rest of the soundtrack–excellent!
Am planning to watch ROTK with actor commentary tonoc ( if I ever get off this board, that is!)

I just watched the film today, but I didn’t see where PJ had his part. Anyone? Or am I imagining it?

Yes, I know that (and that the ringbearer club gets him on the boat). I know that from reading the books. But it is not so apparent in the movie and the “non-Tolkienites” I talk to have not read the books. I was hoping the EE would expand on this.

He has a cameo in each film.

Fellowship: drunken man in the street of Bree just outside the Prancing Pony.

Towers: warrior throwing a spear from Helm’s Deep.

King: actually I’m not going to tell you (but here’s two clues!)

Clue 1: Aaarrrrggghhh Jim lad! Pieces of eight!

Clue 2: Legolas kills him. :eek:

An important point is that the wound that Frodo receives from the Witch-King’s poisoned Morgul knife on Weathertop never truly heals.
This is referenced at the end of the EE where Frodo rubs his shoulder before handing over the book to Sam.

From the Appendices, it’s not just ringbearers who are invited onto Elven ships. Legolas invites Gimli to travel with him.
‘And when this ship passed, there came an end to the Fellowship of the Ring in Middle Earth.’

And then says “It’s never healed.” :wink:

And in Fellowship, Gandalf and Elrond talk about how Frodo’s wound from the Morgul blade will never heal.

Jackson and his editors did a good job with continuity, keeping all the threads connected over three films.

One thing that’s always puzzled me in Fellowship is when Arwen appears to Frodo in that bright light, wearing a pretty gown, and a few seconds later she rides up to him, wearing something different. Did he need her to be there incorporeally in that few seconds?

It was how she appears in the spirit realm and was indicitive of Frodo’s slipping into it because of the Morgul wound.

Yep. That’s one of the things that differentiates the Elves from the mortals. They exist in both realms at the same time.

Sean Astin makes me want to ram a sharp stick through my eardrums. I can’t tell you how glad I am that The Dom and Billy Show gets its own commentary track.

Quite so.
In the book the Elf Lord Glorfindel does Arwen’s bit near Rivendell. He is described by Gandalf as existing in both realms.

Anyone else think that Dom Monaghan and Billy Boyd should get their own show? Their commentaries are the highlight of all the extended editions - they seem to actually BE Merry and Pippin - a couple of young guys up for a few beers, a bit of an adventure and a lot of laughs.

He was the captain of the corsair ship. If you’re watching the EE, look for when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli first see the Corsair ships and challenge them. Legolas fires a “warning shot”, but Gimli jogs his elbow, so his arrow hits the corsair played by PJ.