What’s the diffrence? Is there a diffrence? What’s the deal?
no difference.
LSD = lysergic acid diethylamide
It’s not very much fun, but it will allow you to fly.
So the only diffrence is like the diffrence between marijuana and pot? Cool, thanks, mouthbreather
Smoke Weed?
Yeah, Acid is just a street slang for LSD.
— G. Raven
puff puff
It’s called acid becuase it supposedly burns holes in your brain. Cites, anyone?
Baldersash. Aspirin is Acetylsalicylic Acid, does aspirin burn holes in your brain?
LSD is Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (shouldn’t that really be LAD?) The easiest way to make LSD is from Lysergic Acid, which is now a heavily controlled substance. LSD is made from acid, it has the word acid in its name, so it is commonly known as Acid.
BTW, I remember back about 1970, I was in jr hi school, and I always hung around the science lab after school and goofing around with their scientific apparatus, some of which dated back to around 1850. One day while poking around in the chem storeroom, I noticed an almost-full liter bottle of Lysergic Acid. I asked the teacher about it, he admitted he was supposed to destroy it, but that in previous decades, it was used in a very common science demonstration, and that almost every school’s chem lab used to have Lysergic Acid. And he still liked to do that demonstration (I forgot what it was exactly) so he decided to keep it. Someone else must have noticed it, it was stolen a few months later (no, not by me).
Chas.E said:
LSD was first synthesized by German-speaking chemists. The German word for ‘acid’ is ‘säure’. Simple.
Actually, there was just one chemist involved, Dr. Albert Hofmann, though he was working for Sandoz Labs at the time. Dr. Hofmann was Swiss but jcgmoi is correct to say “German-speaking”.
Chas.E said
Boy, does that sound phony. Not that you saw it, but the explanation. I taught high-school chemistry for three years(1966-69), but totally fail to remember that “very common science demonstration.” And I feel sure that every school chem lab didn’t have a bottle of Lysergic Acid. Balderdash!
There was, however, a particular mass-produced chemical that could be used to easily synthesize PCP (kids, don’t try PCP at home, unless you like imaginary cockroaches crawling out of your ears and similar horrors).
I don’t recall what the legitimate chemical was used for, but fifteen or so years ago I read that several hundred gallons of the stuff disappeared from the last active plant shortly before legislation outlawed production of that chemical. The (vaguely remembered) article pointed out that that much product could be used to synthesize PCP at contemporary consumption rates for decades to come. Anyone else remember this?
No, I actually read the description of the chemistry demonstration, but it was about 30 years ago so I’ve forgotten. Lots of what I learned about chemistry came from my habit of browsing through the teacher’s old chemistry supply catalogs. Most of them sold LA and described its use in the experiment, right alongside many other classic chemistry demonstrations.
My chemistry teacher was about 70 years old, and had been teaching for decades, so he remembered the demo but no longer performed it in class. This demonstration was popular in years past but was halted completely when LSD was discovered and Lysergic Acid became a controlled substance. I’m hunting for a description of the demonstration, but nothing has turned up so far. The problem with web searching on this subject is obvious, too many false hits.
You’ve been reading too much anti-drug stuff at school mate, that stuff is about as accurate as the bible! 
dodges rosaries and crosses
— G. Raven
Anyone who’s ever read how to synthesize LSD-25 realizes how complex it is. Is it possible your chem teacher had another variety that might be used in some kind of experiment? I find it difficult to believe that a high school teacher had a bottle of LSD-25 sitting around. Maybe he had a bottle of another form that could be used toward synthesizing LSD-25.
I have not used LSD for many a year. Just wondering. Is it still possible today to find genuine LSD-25? Or is it bound to be adulterated (or even phony)?
phorester: he said his teacher had Lysergic Acid, not LSD-25.
jomo mojo: if you’re thinking LSD from the 70’s, it doesn’t exist any more. A hit back then was a drop of LSD on a sugar cube (or something). A hit today is still a drop, but the LSD is generally cut with everclear or something up to 100 times, an average hit contains 50-100 mic’s of LSD. Also, fake acid is pretty common (it’s the easiest drug to fake).
and on to the original post -
yeah, acid is just a street term for LSD but it isn’t always LSD-25. It could be an LSD-25 analouge or if it’s not made quite right it could be some sort of mutated LSD or something. “Acid” could also be ALD-52 or LSA, although LSA does a poor job of passing for LSD and ALD, although more potent than LSD and legal, generally degrades into LSD after a day or two so it’s not very common.
ummm… phorester, Lysergic Acid isn’t LSD. Swallow some Lysergic Acid and it will probably burn your throat, just like drinking Nitric Acid, but it definitely won’t get you high. It is EASY to make LSD, if you have Lysergic Acid to start with.
I’ve been checking about that experiment, and it appears that Lysergic Acid was one of the first products of Organic Synthesis, which won the 1965 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for Robert Burns Woodward. Most of these Nobel Prizes in Chemistry tend to spawn a classic chemistry demonstration for the classroom (well, at least until the Nobel Prizewinning subjects were beyond the technology available in standard classroom chem labs). Anyway, it appears that the Lysergic Acid experiment is some sort of demonstration of simple organic synthesis. I’m still looking for more information, but it appears this demonstration dates sometime between 1954 and the late 1960s when Lysergic Acid was declared a controlled substance.
originally posted by ChasE
Yeah I know, thanks. I guess I should pay more attention to the posts. I was reading LSD=Lysergic Acid when you meant LSD = Lysergic Acid diethlyamide.
Well everythings relative I guess but it sure doesn’t sound too easy to me.
[note: Link deleted. Please do not post instructions on how to manufacture controlled substances on this message board. Sheesh, I hate the drug threads. -manhattan]
[Edited by manhattan on 02-26-2001 at 06:12 PM]
Not that I’m disputing with your rules, but this is just about the only case where you could tell everyone the recipe and it wouldn’t make any difference. Anyone capable of synthesizing LSD would pretty much have all the ingredients easily available except lysergic acid. I saw the recipe and it’s about 3 pages of convoluted instructions on how to make lysergic acid, and 3 short steps to make it into LSD.