Mad Mad House 3/18

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Who will it be tonight? My guess is Loena, with Tim a close second.

Puttering about on various and sundry message boards, it’s a little creepy how… umm… fanatical Don’s fanbase is. Of course they appear to mostly be comprised of teenage goth wannabes, so I suppose it’s not very surprising at all. More amusing that the one alt we’ve been identifying as a poseur is the one who is (based on fan reaction) the most popular.

Interesting point brought up somewhere I can’t recall (it most likely was David B.'s fabulous RealityNewsOnline site)… with the exception of Don, the purpose of the “alternative behavior” of the alts is to better the environment around them. Don, however, is a bit of a parasite, since he drains from those around him for betterment of himself. Will this create some tension later on between the alts?

Oh, and Otto? They show reruns Tuesday nights at 10pm EST. I just found that out, or I would have alerted you in advance so you could see Kelly’s meltdown of last week. But at least you know now. :slight_smile:

Slightly over 5 hours to go…

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They rerun TH night too, by the way. Once Mad Mad House/Scare Tactics/Tripping The Rift air, they air them a second time in the same order.

Anyway, I’m guessing that Bonnie is going to be out. I think they’re doing the run around naked bit tonight, and she wouldn’t play Memory… This would be two refusals in a row. Loena’s my second choice.

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Well, watched it.

Kinda surprised Brent got the axe. I’da sworn it would have been Tim. Also kind of disappointed. I liked Brent more than Tim.

Speaking of Tim…how about that 24 hours of silence? Apparently Don was right, it did work in his favour. But apparently Dona and Avacado were thinking along the same lines I was - that Tim was obviously attempting to finnesse things - he can’t say anything stupid if he keeps his mouth shut. Unfortunately for Tim, he was just as annoying with his yap shut. And Jamie (I think it was Jamie…may have been Nichole, actually.) was right…he should have gone whole hog and kept quiet for 2 whole weeks.

Also speaking of Tim… No naked Art and Avacado this week! What a rip!

I liked the dinner date thing. It was cute.

I’m not sure Fiona needed to be quite so…blunt with Loana. But, it worked out for the best, I guess. Between Fiona and Art, Loana opened herself up, some.

No kidding. Apparently, he’s hot. I don’t get it. Now, I can appriciate the ‘vampire’ look, trust me. I don’t think Don pulls it off well. He looks like he’s perpetually smelling something spoiled.

I do like him better after this episode, though. ‘Even the undead wear seatbelts!’ was cute.

The shopping stuff was interesting.

Nail polish remover in ‘feminine hygene’? Art, Art, Art. You shouldn’t need Don to tell you that’s not right.

The little old lady calling Art a devil was… I can’t believe people like that exist. Believe what you will, but at least be polite if you feel you have to share it. Going up to a total stranger in a grocery store and calling them a devil is terribly rude.

But that store doesn’t have a ‘no shirt, no shoes, no service’ rule? (Did art have shoes on? I didn’t notice.)

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Re: your spoiler- yeah, I didn’t see that one coming for this week at all. But overall not terribly surprising- it would’ve definitely been Loena if she hadn’t participated in the goddess ritual.

Noel had me rolling on the floor with his date scenario. Wasn’t he also the one with the great “So, let me get this straight- to enter the circle, we have to get drunk and give you massages?” line? I’ve never seen boys run faster. :slight_smile: He seems to have relaxed a LOT.

Even I thought Fiona’s question to Loena was pretty loaded, and I don’t like Loena at all. Fiona was a high-and-mighty bitch throughout the episode, and her hair looked like carpet.

Meh… I’ve had two little old ladies accost me in the grocery store parking lot to inform me that people like myself shouldn’t be allowed out on the lord’s day (don’t ask). I’m shocked that’s the only comment they got, and even more shocked that she pegged DON as an angel. Yikes.

He was wearing shoes. I imagine the store relaxed its ‘no shirt’ policy for the sake of the cameras.
I wonder how many bathrooms that house has. How do they decide who gets to shower off the gunk from the challenge first? Speaking from experience, honey is not something you want setting up in your hair. And can you imagine what the drains are going to look like by the time these people are through with them? Yikes.

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Yeah, that was good. I love that they all changed into their shorts and robes. Hee.

Yeah. I like her a lot less after this episode.

Ah! She DID say that! I thought I’d heard wrong! Yeah, that’s priceless.

And, I really shouldn’t be shocked that people like that woman exist. I used to work for one.

I’m hoping they hosed them off outside, first. Great gods, that challenge made me ill… And I thought Don’s was icky.

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Well terrific, I missed the first half. I was set up to tape the later showing but the bf and I ended up watching a DVD and it ran over into the show. So I have the last half-hour of the DVD (without sound, so not even a discovery useful for piracy purposes) and the last half of the show, from right around the start of the challenge. Which challenge, BTW, leads me to think Voodoo Chile is a poser. I find it sort of hard to believe someone who takes it seriously would sanction the use of sacred ritual objects in the fashion of the challenge. And her Jamaican Count routine was annoying. “One! One sacred object! Ah ah ah!”

Speaking of which, did something happen with Brent other than the challenge? It seems like from what I saw he got the boot because he lost his cool and dropped the key back in his pit. Kind of an extreme reaction, no?

bobkitty thanks for the heads up on the Tue repeats. Sci Fi’s website didn’t list them, the bastards.

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Kelly’s chat transcript is up and can be read in all its glory here http://www.scifi.com/transcripts/2004/kelly3.15.html. If at all possible, I hate her even more after having read it. Accusing Art of being an alt because he was abused as a child? Bitch. Amusingly, she wants to participate in the NYC vampire community because of her close karmic friendship with Don. ::snerk:: Those people will (figuratively and literally) eat her for breakfast.

I find her portrayal of her time in the house and subsequent interactions with the alts interesting in contrast to the alts’ comments at the beginning of this episode… Fiona flat-out said that she believed if there was a knife handy that Kelly would have stabbed Art. Yikes.

Mmmm, I agree, but I suppose you can also say the same about the other alts as well. Using nudity to distract people during a match game? Using blood to play find-the-toy? So far these also can be considered violations of the alts’ beliefs.

HAH!!! I wondered why the back of my mind was pinging during the challenge… trying to dredge up that particular childhood memory, apparently.

I think it wasn’t that he lost his cool, but that his performance at the challenge drove home the point that he was not in the house to learn about himself and others- he’s only there because there is competition involved and a potential reward. Much like they accuse Eric of being all about “show me the money.” The alts spent a good bit of the deliberation (or, if you’re Kelly, “deliveration”) talking about the norms’ motivations, and Brent wound up on the losing end.

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I didn’t see Avocado’s challenge so I can’t really speak to that, but I assumed that Don’s challenge used fake blood. If that was real then I am now ooked out beyond reckoning.

I don’t know enough about either Avocado or Don’s beliefs to know if they hold nudity or blood in the same esteem as “sacred” in the way that I would expect a priestess to hold objects sacred. I guess I see their beliefs more as “philosophies” and not “religions.” The voodoo challenge would be akin to a Catholic priest burying his stole in muck or a rabbi playing “hide the yad.”

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Again, I’m interested but have no cable.

What, exactly was the challenge? What were the ‘sacred objects?’ seke medoule (miniature coffin)? asson (gourd rattle)? fwet kash(whip)? candles? shells (ottomh I can’t remember exactly what type of shell is used to consult the ifa)?

What exactly was the goddess ritual?

What did Fiona ask Luenna?

And are you sure the woman didn’t say Don was a dark angel, Satan’s angel, a fallen angel or some such?

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The challenge involved putting the norms in pits and dumping crap on them. Supposedly things used in rituals. Dirt, fruit, honey, feathers, fish, seaweed and “animal organs.” Then they had to dig around in the muck until they found five “sacred items”: rattle, key, voodoo doll, necklace and candle, and lay them on her “sacred altar.”

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Thanks, Otto.

Other than the doll*, and the rattle (was I right in guessing asson, kind of a marraca that has taken off its carnival ouftit and put on its chuch clothes?) the items described are disposable. It’s not uncommon to include them in an offering that is abandoned in the proper place. Rather like statues of saint thatguy that are buried in the lawn by folks hoping to sell their house. The mixture dumped on them consisted of items that would also seem to have ritual significance (Feathers, depending on what color they are and what bird they come from mean many things. Fruit and fish are both symbols of nature’s bounty. etc). So, I could see the mamaloa putting them on her altar. This strikes me as sensationalized but not invented just for tv.

Except for the doll. I can see putting an ancestor figurine on your altar. But, the ancestors tend to get pissed when not shown proper respect.

And I’ve never come across mention of the classic voodoo doll outside of B movies and such.