Mad-Men: 4.04 "The Rejected" (open spoilers)

It was Dr. Faye Miller’s ring.

There’s no reason for that to happen.

Big disappointment.

What a weird thing to say. What does he think, that Pete and Trudy don’t have sex? It sounds like something an 11-year-old would say.

It’s “Faye.” She wanted the placecard misspelled as “Fay.”

I think they went as far as they were going to go in the closet at that moment.

If someone was shouting at me like that in a public corridor, I’d refuse to reply to.

No, at the end Trudy’s father was over to have lunch with them to discuss bringing them all of Vicks’ business. Freddy is screwed.

Henry stopped Betty from taking any alimony. But, really, Don doesn’t care about these kinds of things.

No, definitely not. But she bore his child. That kind of thing can knock you sideways unexpectedly.

Check and check.

It was a perhaps less crude way of saying “I’d bang her like a screen door during a tornado.”

I was surprised to learn that Don’s new secretary was played by Randee Hellerwho was Daniel Larusso’s mom, Lucille, in The Karate Kid.

You didn’t think that was crude? :confused:

I found it incredibly and deliberately vulgar.

Oh, no, it was vulgar. I just meant it might have been less crude than “I’d bang her like a screen door.” But these things are all relative.

It might have been less crude, but also more nonsensical. “I’d bang her like a screen door,” is the kind of thought that an adult man would have. “I’d soooo make her pregnant,” is not.

I disagree. What makes “I’d make her so pregnant” blunter and more vulgar in my view is its bluntness, its utter lack of metaphor. It’s not trying to be oblique, punny, or humorous; it’s not even pretending to pay heed to conventions of what is and is not acceptable to say about another person.

Did anyone else think that the title of the previous episode – “The Good News” – was more applicable to this episode than that one?

What news was good, except for Pete’s baby and the Vicks account?

Exactly that. And Ken’s engagement.

I don’t recall *any *good news from the episode titled “The Good News.”

I think that was kind of the point. The phrase was introduced when Don (or, more correctly, Dick), Anna, and the neice were talking over dinner. The neice was talking about someone she knew at college who had become a born-again Christian and wanted to talk to her about “the good news.” Don/Dick chuckled and said “it’s never good news” – or something like that.

And then later in the episode, of course, came the news about the cancer.

Has anybody ever wondered if the series is going to end with Don (or Roger, or somebody who’s a regular) jumping out a window (i.e. the opening credits were dangling it in front of the audience the whole time)?

Personally I’d like to see the final season whenever it happens span decades and see Don in the age of infomercials and google ads. He’d be in his mid to late 80s today but there are execs who’ve stayed at the helm of an industry that wrong- Bert Cooper isn’t much younger than that.

In the long run, I want to see Don develop emphysema, liver disease, heart disease, rosacea, and erectile dysfunction.

Finally an episode about the office. And look at how much better this ep was than any of the previous.

Do you also get the feeling that Matthew Weiner sits out in Hollywood and listens to all the people telling him that they hate the Betty scenes and that Don’s California scenes are deadly slow and thinks, “I don’t care. It’s my show and you will so too like all the stuff I like, no matter how boring they are and how bad I am at writing them!”

He needs to do something with Don. Both Peggy and Pete showed nice character advancement in this episode and Don is stuck acting like a jerk. Again. It’s Peggy’s show now. We could lose Don and not miss him, either for character or for plot. He’s a minor Freddy, just there to say stupid things. Jon Hamm must have been taken aside by Weiner and been told to wait for the second half of the season or else he’s looking at a career ended in public. No more hosting SNL for this year’s mopey Don Draper.

One other thing that only writers would notice: nobody in real life has the superpower that allows them to insert a piece of paper into a manual typewriter without having to adjust it before typing.

The implication is he’s sliding towards a romance with (Dr.) Fay(e) Fisher, which makes me think he’s not. Perhaps they’ll bring some romance on from left field (a hippie, or Lane’s frigid wife, one of the Supremes, a mafia princess or a one legged welfare mother 10 years his senior from Queens) who’ll re-light him.

Maybe he’ll bring his across-the-hall neighbor some pears…

What we need is to be reminded why everyone thinks he’s a genius.

Are you a writer?

  1. I don’t think he thinks he’s writing those scenes badly

  2. Writers write what they think is good. Your inner dialogue about “what I like” and “what they like” makes no sense

He is a writer.

I had the impression that was the case. It’s what made it do strange to see him imply that Weiner could intentionally write something objectively bad while bring capable of writing something objectively good.