Yes, she said that Don had promised to take her picture. When he couldn’t remember that, she said that it was when he was having his third order of fries.
Then later, she asked him to pass her clothes over and it was an orange-and-yellow striped food service uniform with a nametag.
Also, Don’s check last episode was dated March 24, 1965.
And Don apparently lives on Waverly Place in New York. With some Disney channel family, no doubt.
Anyone else notice the poster-sized fur company advertisement on the wall at the fur place when Roger first met Don?
The lovely lady modeling the fur coat in the picture was none other than the future Mrs. Betty Draper.
I seriously think this is as good if not better than the first season (I think season 2 was the best). I just don’t understand the negative comments.
I think Peggy has been scattered around this season because she’s the only character to really explore the cultural change on ‘street’ level.
I totally agree. I love this season more and more with every episode, and I think this episode in particular was fascinating and wonderful. I fail to see how this season is more “slow moving” or “shiftless” than the other three, and while it’s not fun to watch Don Draper descend into his own private hell, that’s the logical progression to the story.
I’ve got my fingers crossed for erectile dysfunction. Don won’t hit bottom until little Don fails to … hit bottom.
I didn’t notice that, but I’m pretty sure it was mentioned a season or two ago that Don met Betty while she was modeling furs.
They’d mentioned that before and I think they flashbacked to it once, so good continuity.
I think he’ll realize he’s hit rock bottom when he wakes up with Miss Blankenship. “That was nice but when I was in the Supreme Court steno pool- not to drop names or nothing but Billy Howard Taft, now that was a man who knew what a tongue was for. Oh by the way I stopped up your toilet, take care of it would ya cause I feel another one coming on”.
Knowing Miss Blankenship, she’ll announce that she’s coming a half hour after she actually did.
Hey! You lot: stop with the funny.
I don’t want to have to keep watching if this show goes south, just to keep up with the snark. :mad:
I will re-watch to observe the fur salesman Don. I know there were some subtleties in his clothing, being cheaper, not as well cut, etc. but mens suits all sort of look the same to me. (unless he was Herb Tarlek).
The wide eyes still creep me out. It looks unnatural, like morose, dignified Uncle Frank trying to be all jolly and stuff.
I didn’t think they did the younger versions too well but it is rarely if ever that is done right. Had I been watching on telly I would have found the flashbacks really confusing.
I think Young Don is done as well as he can be without venturing into the totally ridiculous (a different actor, excessive makeup, CGI, or goofy wigs ala Dexter flashbacks). His dress is notably different. As Labrador Deceiver notes, Young Don’s suit is frumpier and more ill-fitting than we usually see him. It was also an older cut, with wider lapels, not the sleek, modern Don we meet in season 1. Not only is his wide-eyed eagerness explained by him being a salesman (it should come as no surprise that it appears unnatural; salesmen are), he also hasn’t been exposed to the Manhattan ad game yet. He hasn’t yet developed the Don Draper persona we’re used to. I found it subtle, deliberate, and appropriate, all without being distracting.
I’m with Push You Down and pepperlandgirl in regard to the quality of the season. I find it to be at least as good as the preceding two, and probably the best since the first. Seeing Don’s downfall may not be as fun to watch as when he was a charmed, dashing, womanizing scoundrel, but that’s the point. Don’s life has caught up with him and he’s now lacking any of the boundaries (Betty, Anna, his kids) that enabled him to project the veneer of a decent human being in the past. The worst is yet to come. On top of everything else, Don now believes his own hype and compromised the artistic integrity of his (very small) firm in order to cover his ass.
I was watching at like 4 AM on a very tiny screen and the fact that the fur shop scene was a flashback was COMPLETELY lost on me. I thought it was Roger and Don goofing around before a pitch to a fur shop. Then I thought Roger was back with Joan. Then I thought it was Roger inserting Don into past events by mistake for his book.
Thank goodness, I figured it out by the second flashback. Whew!
I thought after the ‘lost’ weekend Don would get his head out of his ass at least for a little bit.
Don also sold cars for a while, which would have been some while before the furs. In one of the flashbacks he was a car salesman when he rather unexpectedly met his “wife”, Anna (the original Don Draper’s wife).
A lot of this season may be a meta response to the glamorization of “Mad Men” culture.
I think the people behind the Sopranos experienced the same thing and often had to remind their audience “Hey, these guys aren’t ‘cool,’ they’re monsters.”
This whole episode was all about three generations during one of the most signifcant generational schisms in recent history…
Roger, the old guard, unable to get past World War II, writing his memoirs, becoming obsolete.
Don, the middle aged trying to live by the old rules while adopting new ones, they want to change the world in certain ways, but not aggresively not radically. Don is at the apex of his professional life and at the nadir of his personal life, much like Ameica who was the unquestioned economic power of the world, but struggling with its own identity.
Peggy, the new guard, albeit slowly, she actually is pretty prograssive, albeit not completely…yet. This episode I feel is here awakening to the rights and powers that she has a woman. She clearly learned from the nude-off with dipwad how much fuill of shit a lot of guys are and how she can use that in the buseiness place.
I’m so wrapped up in the notion that Don Draper is essentially a good guy that I half expected him to hand his Cleo over to Peggy after getting it from Roger.
Can someone remind me of the reason for the animosity between Campbell and Cosgrove?
If I remember correctly Campbell got passed over in favor of Cosgrove for Head of Accounts at (the original) Sterling Cooper. I can’t remember if there is more to it than that, but I think that is where it all started.