When Pete asked Bob who hired him, Bob said, “You did.”
Re Pete saying something about how Bob wasn’t the first one to lie about his past, that seemed to be a direct reference to Don’s fabrication of his own past.
I didn’t think Ken lost his eye, just got injured.
A couple of people have said there were lots of other ways Don could have saved the St. Joseph’s account, and I’d like to hear a couple. I don’t think Don deliberately threw Peggy to the dogs- but it was an emergency and he had to come up with something. I think he made the Gleason thing up right on the spot. He gave Ted plenty of opportunity (“Go on, Ted tell them.”) to make up something clever on his own, but Ted didn’t catch the ball and run with it. He just sat there with his mouth hanging open. If he was so damn smart, he could have saved the day right then, but let’s face it, no one can pull a rabbit out of a hat in those situations as well as Don. At that point Peggy’s potential Clio was hardly a priority. She’s being a big baby. An office affair totally fucks up your judgment, and yes, this is the voice of experience.
Betty was preening because Sally got into the boarding school where Jackie Kennedy went. That’s like the mothership calling her daughter home, and of course Betty (being Betty) thinks that reflects on her. Probably didn’t hurt her self-esteem to learn that Sally is sour on Don, too.
Well, they finally showed ad men actually doing something creative. And… Peggy’s ad idea kinda sucked. I think we’re probably supposed to think it kinda sucked, based on what went on this episode, but the idea of an asprin commercial based on Rosemary’s Baby being acceptable just doesn’t pass muster. No way the customer would have gone for that – that movie was too out of the mainstream at the time (although, tame and quaint by modern standards).
Also getting a bit annoyed at Ginsberg being used as the Oracle of Truth, particularly since they’ve suggested he’s schizo. Crazy-but-Insightful Guy is a tired cliche to use as a crutch.
edit: Don definitely took the opportunity to take Ted down a peg. His “Go on Ted, tell them” was him rubbing Ted’s face in the fact that Don was in control, not actually giving Ted an opportunity to save things. The way Don presented it, Ted couldn’t disagree, and so had to let Peggy’s idea be stolen from under her, and Don then further humiliated him by pointing out that everyone knew about Ted and Peggy’s budding affair.
The St. Joseph’s guy seemed to like it. He just didn’t want to pay fifty grand for it.
When Roger made his cyclops joke, everyone seemed to chuckle which I don’t think would be the case if Ken was permanently blinded. Roger might be that much of a dick but I don’t think Bert is.
Pete’s obviously calling back to the Don blackmail thing. He knows his chances of getting the partners to fire Bob aren’t great. But Bob doesn’t necessarily know that so Pete can hang the ole Sword of Damocles over Bob. Pete also knows that Bob is a skilled con guy and figures it’s better to have that working for him than against him.
Next week’s season closer: Don and Sylvia do drugs, hallucinate, move to California.
It was kind of sad and hilarious, she and Betty having a smoke in the car going back. Betty looked really pleased, maybe she’ll be happier with Sally as a young adult than as a child.
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While Betty’s not a likable character, I think finding out her charming father’s a horndog should give Sally some sympathy for her having been Don’s wife.
Think there’s any chance the finale will involve an argument between Pete and Bob that ends in a makeout scene? Or Mrs. Campbell and Manolo coming by with their wedding license and the demand that Pete call Manolo “Papi”?
Peggy’s ad with the Rosemary’s Baby theme is going to be dated, quick. If a vintage commercial like that was shown today, I doubt anyone under the age of 55 would have the faintest idea what it was based ON.
Aside from causing havoc at the office, Bob (and Manolo) is also, it seems, working on some kind of scam to get Pete’s mom’s money (not that she has any real amount). I find this aspect rather creepy. I wonder if her fancy man is going to try to marry her on that trip they want to take.
The thing about Pete’s confrontation of Bob is that this is another example of the end of the elites controlling society. Pete is from an old New York family and attended all the right schools. It used to be that was enough to be successful. But Bob just invented a respectable background. It’s more important that Bob is likeable (and good looking) than that he has any particular background.
I got this totally wrong. :smack: When Betty quoted the headmistress as saying, “You’ll have plenty of options and she hopes you’ll choose THEM,” I took that to mean that the headmistress hoped Sally would choose her* other options*, NOT Miss Porter’s. Yikes. People had best not try to be subtle when communicating with me. I might miss a marriage proposal or something.
Why would Pete’s chances of getting the partners to fire Bob not be that great? Bob’s position is similar to Don’s, but not exactly the same, since if I remember correctly, Don was at Sterling Cooper for awhile before his secret was discovered, and was higher up the food chain. It would have been a huge loss for them to lose Don. But Bob’s fairly new, and hasn’t ingratiated himself other than with Joan and Cutler. Considering that he’s also a “degenerate,” I would think Pete would have a decent chance of getting rid of him.
Maybe I missed something, but I figured Pete letting Bob stay was a little bit out of being nice, and also that maybe Bob could be useful to Pete in the future.
Maybe I missed something, but I figured Pete letting Bob stay was a little bit out of being nice, and also that maybe Bob could be useful to Pete in the future.
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Especially if they have a gay client since he’s younger/better looking/more eager-to-please than Sal Romano.
I wonder if Bob Benson is an Anglo pseudonym for a Spanish real name, or if Manolo is more than a friend. I gather his background is in something menial but legal.
It pretty much starts and ends with this. Pete learned his lesson from when he went through this with Don, not that he can’t get rid of Bob (because like you said, he’s not as far up the food chain as Don was) but because Pete failed to use that information to his advantage. This time he’s going to try better to make it work for him.
Yup. Don was a successful executive when Pete, the new kid who everybody disliked, discovered his “secret” & tried to use it against him. Now Pete’s the successful executive & Bob is the new kid.
I think Pete has discovered Enlightened Self Interest. Outing Bob (in any way) would make the company look bad–the clients like him & he seems to do the work OK. (Isn’t advertising a high class con game, anyway?) Now he’s got a grateful employee.
Wait, what? I don’t recall anything like that. Bob called Manolo up to have Pete’s mom pressure Pete to leave Bob alone. (which… really weak. once again, Bob shows he’s no good at manipulating people.)
It was a bit unexpected that Bob was fluent in Spanish. Sampiro may be right, that Bob is passing as an Anglo, but the actor really doesn’t even look “Spanish born in Spain” at all.
Well, Duck basically told Pete that “Bob” already did eagerly please his previous employer who took him to Europe as a cabana boy… And we’ve seen that Pete was willing to pimp out Joan, so not too much of a stretch there.
Season finale: Pete learns why the guys at GM like Bob?
Pete had just tried to get Bob knocked off Chevy and was plainly told “You’ll be off Chevy before Bob is”.
Could Pete make a case against Bob that inspired the other partners to can him? Maybe. Would you want to take that gamble after you’ve just been completely shut down by the seniors who sided with that guy over you? And when this is your second time playing the “He’s not what he seems – secret life!” card? Would the partners think continuing Chevy was worth more than firing a guy whose only actual “crime” was lying on his resume and who, from all appearances, had done good work up until now? Hell, at least with Don you could say “deserter” with some legal and patriotic implications.
I think Pete would have had to walk Bob out of the office immediately. Pete said something about the damage Bob could do if he was given even one more day. Bob might already have SCP’s Christmas card list. What else might he know that could cause trouble for the firm? And Pete’s family?
Better to have the enemy inside the tent and all that. And Bob did look grateful not to be outed.
I thought the scene at Miss Porter’s was awful, badly done, clumsy, and poorly acted by everyone. I’m disappointed that Sally’s character is being set up to go the drug/rebellion route. It’s cliche, and it doesn’t fit with the Sally who through the years has seen right through the adults.
I did like Betty’s comment about Sally smoking ‘’ I’d rather you did it in front of me than behind my back." Thousands of parents have said that.
Also, I don’t think outing Bob’s sexuality would be a big factor in getting him fired. Don didn’t seem to care much about Sal until it became a work issue (with Lucky Strikes). Kurt kept getting used by the firm even after he told everyone he was a homosexual. Obviously Bob would rather it remain quiet (he’s still not admitting to it) and I don’t think it’d get him invited to many family dinners but I don’t think it’d lead to him being fired on that basis either.
I might miss a marriage proposal or something.