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I thought the scene at Miss Porter’s was awful, badly done, clumsy, and poorly acted by everyone.
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But it beefed up Wiener’s kid’s college trust fund.
Really though… the girls start off like they’re going to haze Sally, then immediately forget that they’re hazing her, then Sally breaks up their drugs, booze & sex party and no one cares. Well, except Rolo.
Rosemary’s Baby was a successful movie and went on to win a lot of awards–including an Oscar or two. I think it was mainstream. I think the question in the episode was at that moment was it well known enough to be referenced.
Also, I kind of liked the ad…but that might have been for Joan’s Jewish lady “How about some chicken soup?”
At the start I thought that Don might have been trying to set up Ted to be talking TO St. Josephs (I got the impression that they had been one of his clients for years) but about Peggy. Don manipulating it so Ted and Peggy were on notice about their “young love” behavior and Don shaming Ted into putting a stop to it… but then Don went the most dickish way and stole Peggy’s idea not for himself but for a dead man.
The ad will get a Cleo now for sure.
Roger’s line “Lee Garner, Jr. made me hold his balls,” that was rich on so many levels. I forgot how much that character fucked around with people. Poor Sal, Garner wanted to literally do it to him.
Pete made a smart move keeping Benenson.
Anyone think it interesting that Pete got his mother a black nurse, when in earlier episodes he basically said his mother would refuse any non-white person. I guess that was Pete’s big “fuck you” to his mom.
I have mixed feelings about what Don did. Overall I thought it was harsh but, he was right about Ted allowing his feelings to interfere with his judgement. I think the scene with Ginsberg and the one with Joan were to make clear to us that the ad idea probably wasn’t great, and they were just clearly into each other.
Anyone else think Ken is going to finally try to be a full-time writer?
I’m not sure which was my favorite moment from this season, Don saying “I love puppies!” or Don pretending to be a crying baby.
It would have been great if it had been Grandma Ida.
I think Ken should forget advertising and writing both and become a dancer.
Yes, but if Ted were Don’s equal, he WOULD have been able to come up with something on the spot. But he couldn’t. He’s not an idea man. In fact, I’m not sure WHAT Ted is good for.
At that point, saving the account was more important than Peggy *maybe *winning an award. If Ted could have come up with something to save the account AND save Peggy’s award when Don gave him the opening (whether sincerely or not), then he could have been the hero. But Ted is not a creative type like Don or Peggy. Don’t blame Don for the fact that Ted doesn’t have an original idea in his head.
Oh please, Ted and Peggy were making fools of themselves without any help from anyone. Anyway Don told him in private. It had to be done. At least when Don screwed around, it didn’t directly affect keeping/losing big clients.
Betty is so going to love bragging about having a daughter at Miss Porter’s. Not to mention that she can now go weeks (months) without ever having to be in the same room as Sally.
Not only that but Bob doesn’t have any idea that Pete was talking about Don, or con artists in general. He probably thinks Pete was talking about dealing with homosexuals before; which make’s Pete’s actions all the more confusing to him.
I think Bob was just trying to scare Pete. Also I think Bob & Manolo may be a couple. Then again I thought the same thing about Kurt and Smitty (although that wasn’t exactly disproved).
Pete’s also embarrassed that said person hit on him, after having tricked him into hiring his mother a gigolo. Pete really doesn’t want the rest of the office finding that out.
I don’t think Dotty is as uncomfortable around non-white woman as she is around men. A woman like her wouldn’t think twice about having a black woman wait on her. She’d just treat her like a maid instead of a companion. I agree about Ken. He’s just about had it with the company. I’m pretty sure he’d resign from SC&P on the spot if that’s what it took to get off Chevy.
Rachel Menken!
I want a gif or a YTMND of Ted saying “I want MY juice” and then Don’s “Waahh Waaah!”
I hope there’s an upcoming episode called The Talented Mr. Benson.
So does this mean that Bob and Pete are temporarily moving to Detroit, or just that they’ll be making lots of business trips there? It wouldn’t be a bad move for Pete- it would give him and Trudy a trial separation without having to say “We’re separated” and give him a break from his mom. (And who gives a damn if she and Manolo were getting it on if it makes her happy and he’s content with the paycheck? It’s not like she’s going to give birth to a little half-brother to steal the inheritance, which aside from some family effects there’s not much of to begin with; I’d have been happy as hell for my mother to have found a gigolo in her final years.)
Can someone explain the episode title? (Yeah, I know it’s a reference to Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice).) Who is showing mercy to whom? Or not.
I have to love that Sally’s “rebellion” is going to Miss Porter’s School. After all these years of readings comments that she was going to join the Manson Family, Weiner apparently decided to give them the biggest possible finger. The oddest moment was when the headmistress called for “Clara” to accompany her. I’m sure every long-term viewer (and that’s everybody isn’t it: the show would literally be incomprehensible to a newbie) was thinking, “Clara got a job at Miss Porter’s after being fired by Betty?”
Weiner’s said nobody’s dying this year so whatever surprises he’s saving for the last episode can be carried over to next year. That could be a problem. The last thing we need are more characters. The show needs to prune them back by a half.
Ted was in charge of Creative at his firm, just like Don was. That’s why he was introduced: as a rival hotshot to Don. We just haven’t seen Ted be creative, only been informed that he is so, where we’ve had six seasons of seeing Don be clever.
The account wasn’t in peril. Only Peggy’s ad idea was in peril. If they didn’t convince the customer, all that would have happened is they’d need to sell them on a different (cheaper) ad idea. And, again, Ted is a Creative star just like Don. He’s the one who came up with his firm’s pitch to GM that he and Don were indifferent whether the combined firm used his or Don’s pitch.
Don was planning on screwing with Ted as soon as he saw them at the movie theater. That was the point of his asking what time it was in LA when they got home, and then having to go call Harry – he was going back on his promise to Ted to not pursue the rival juice account.
Everything that followed thereafter was Don putting Ted in his place: he got his juice account, set up Ted to smash Peggy’s hopes of a Clio, threw a wrench into their affair, and all without making it seem he was manipulating them. (Don is a master manipulator – unlike, say, Pete or Bob.)
Peggy saw through him, knowing him as well as she does. She knew his antics were wholly petty revenge, despite his protestations that what he did was for the company. That’s why she called him “a monster”; she knows he’s a liar.
Ken mentioned not wanting to be away from his his soon-to-be-kid as another reason he didn’t want to deal with GM any more. And Pete mentioned his daughter only sees him every other weekend, anyway, so wouldn’t know the difference. So they’re commuting between NY and Detroit.
Pete said he and Trudy were separated; no need for a trial separation when it’s already happened.
One way in which Pete is a nicer guy than I is that I would have already sent whatever evidence I could get my hands on up to and including 16mm footage of his father-in-law’s infidelity to his mother-in-law, co-workers, members of any church or lodge or club he belongs to, hell- take out an ad in the NYT Sunday edition if need be. It’s not the patronizing a prostitute that bothers me in the least but the hypocrisy, and I’m surprised Pete hasn’t outed him to everybody he can. (The scandal will have blown over before Tammy’s old enough to know anything about it.)
“You finally found a hooker that takes Traveler Checks?”
“Crap! Why did I tell you that?”
According to thereview in The AV Club:
Portia’s famous speech argues for a mode of conduct beyond following legal rules or social mores. Pete showed this kind of mercy to Bob, who knew that Pete could have destroyed his new-found career by outing him, but decided instead to give him a (limited) break.
Don, on the other hand, did not; he followed all the “rules” of business in crushing Ted. Businessmen–based on a strict profit/loss accounting–would judge Sunkist to be the better deal and the aspirin ad budget overrun to be foolish. Much like the Shylock portrayed in the play, Don wanted his “pound of flesh” simply to harm and humiliate the other party.
Thanks for the link… now please relate it to the episode. (I already went on the record as being literal-minded.)
Another example from the episode: Sally could have ratted out Don to Betty but didn’t.