Seriously? Seriously? There’s about five hours left in the Day (more, I guess, when you posted this, but still, and you’re adding momentum to the lead bandwagon, dramatically increasing the chances that MHaye’s going to die, and your only reason, basically, is that he was subbed out?
Only a couple of hours left? Man, this one keeps sneaking up on me. Ah well…I can only apologize for the murky lurkiness. Between trying to get the house all primped and ready for selling, my mother coming to visit this weekend, and the looming prospect of my SIL leaving her boyfriend and she and my nephew moving in with us (as early as tomorrow) – it’s been hectic to say the least. I had seriously considered asking to be subbed, but I believe there’s light ahead, so I’ll give it a last shot.
Anyway…
My early suspicions on ShadowFacts and Nanook remain. It still feels like a scum tag-teaming, so I’m going to keep my vote where it was (at least for the moment):
Vote ShadowFacts
Going to do some catching up and get more on the record before dusk.
And I was so excited when I typed that at 3:00AM and a little red line didn’t appear under it. :smack:
Vote F Slit
I’ve been pinged since I jumped into the game. I strongly suspect she’s a vampire, but there’s still a chance she’s a wolf, too. It just feels like the wolves aren’t going to kill her for awhile, while they search for the doc and/or Vamp.
OK, five hours to go, and we’re stuck in the mud as usual. I’m not seeing the Tomba/MHaye lynch, and there is no chance my vote would switch there. Here are my thoughts:
I still think Diggit is scummy. I’ve talked about it extensively. He’s still my #1 choice.
I sense a very justifiably negative reaction to Freudian’s ridiculous vote. She’s been on my “more likely to be scum than town” list for a while, but I haven’t had the time to do a review and make a case. I could potentially see myself voting for Freudian toDay as an alternate target.
Hal Briston still has not posted toDay and he will be modkilled if he doesn’t get his ass in here soon (and substantially). Modkill is bad because no info is given - he will get disappeared and we will never know what his alignment was. So, we could lynch him before that happens and get the info. If he’s scum (and he’s absolutely also on my “list”), hooray. If he’s Town, well, he was going to be gone anyway, at least this way we have the info. The downside is that there is no accountability for those voting for him, since it would just be because of the impending modkill. So it’s not great informationally from that angle.
And on preview, Hal has now appeared to vote for me. Better get a couple more good posts in, Hal!
Did Freudian Slit give that as a reason anywhere? I’m looking all through the surrounding pages, and all I see is a quick-hit vote. It’s a safe assumption that that’s why he did it*, but I’m just curious if I missed something.
*and a valid reason at that – we’re all now very aware that scum sub out much more often than town. Not saying that was the case here, but if you’re town with no clue where to vote, that’s as good a reason as any.
I couldn’t disagree more. There is no excuse at the end of Day Three to have “no clue” where to vote. Maybe on Day One I could buy this as slightly better than random (assuming you are right about scum subbing out more than town - I was unaware of that). But come one, there are 3 days and almost 1000 posts of material to work with now. There’s got to be something that someone said or did in all of that pings more than just subbing out! As far as I’m concerned, voting for someone just because they subbed out is absolutely ludicrous, and not valid as you say. (I’m speaking more generally here. This may or may not have been Freudian’s reason. It could have been the haircut - who knows?)
Here’s a crazy theory. What if the four remaining wolves are; Diggit, Shadow, Nanook, and Freudian. Diggit and Shadow both had votes on 'em, so Freudian places her vote on MHaye to keep either one of them from being lynched. It sounds crazy, but with how few votes were placed so close to the end of the day at that time, it’s a possibility.
How does one even respond to something as weak as this? Basically the entirety of the suspicion on me is that I maybe tag teamed Hal with Shadow. How do you defend against that? I don’t feel that I’ve tag teamed with anyone, much less Shadow. I voted for Hal because I felt he was being scummy. I still do, just less so than Tomba. Note that he once again snuck in just before the Day ended with just enough posting to not be mod killed, but not much in the way of substance. A few smudges, a vote and not much else. Whereas I’m here and posting on a regular basis. But somehow that makes ME the scummy one. This logic, or lack thereof, is amazing.
OK, I’m heading off to a meeting and may or may not be back pre-deadline, so in case I don’t greet the Dawn with the rest of you, and for posterity:
I’m leaving my vote on ShadowFacts. Shadow, your explanation is reasonable, but it’s exactly the explanation you would give if you were scum. I can’t get past the fact that you did with sachertorte exactly what you accused him of doing to Wanderers, then switched over to being his ardent defender once it looked like he was actually going to be get lynched.
But I’d vote for Freudian, too, because that vote on mhaye was just bullshit.
It surely looks to me like MHaye is going down the tubes. I don’t have much of an opinion on him one way or another, but I will say that if we keep allowing lynches to happen based on a tiny plurality because half the group is disengaged from the game, the ability of the Wolves to manipulate the vote will become both greater and easier to hide from scrutiny. That he’s the current vote leader is slightly odd, given that the case against him is mostly hazy.
That he’s the current vote leader with four votes suggests that we’re not functional as a team right now, and that’s a big problem whatever his alignment turns out to be.
This is such a bullshit summary of what happened yesterDay that I cannot let it pass. My grilling of sachertorte had ended before he had a single vote. While there is not a post of mine saying “I’m done questioning you, sach” if you go back and read the whole conversation, it pretty much ends here, post 675. Well after that Blaster places the first vote on sach for the Day, and I immediately called him on it. And on and on with the other crappy (in my mind) reasons people had for voting for him.
So, you are either misremembering the sequence of events, or distorting them. I leave that to the rest to determine. The sequence is right there in black and white for all to see, and it looks nothing like what you say.
Crap. I have to go against what I said earlier. No matter the alignment (scum or vampire) I gotta put in a
vote Freudian Slit.
That previous one off vote just doesn’t work, not at this stage, and probably not even on day one where reasons for voting are flimsier. I hate going back on my not going to vote for her…but this vote post of hers certainly changed my mind. Now, on to my reread to at least get more info about those I suspect.
Based on the reasons others gave for WF Tomba being scummy up thread (him targeting others), plus the fact that he’s leaving the game already…it just seemed like a “safe” vote, and better than voting for no one.
What, do you want me to change my vote to a no lynch, cause that’s all I got.
Considering that one of my first posts of the game was a post basically saying that a few people were pinging me but that I didn’t want to throw out baseless smudges, and **sach **responded by dying a little bit on the inside, I figured it was best to just say what I was thinking at the time. Your defensiveness of the crazy theory is not surprising, though, since you’ve been on my lil list since I started. BTW, I am pretty amazing, thanks.
Retroactively changing your vote does nothing, but how do you consider a “safe” vote to be a good thing? Don’t you think you should be voting for who you think is most scummy?
I would love to let crazy theories go, but this is the Dope. Today’s crazy theory is tomorrow’s runaway bandwagon. Better to head such things off at the pass before they get out of hand, rather than after, since it’s entirely possible to not be able to stop it once it get’s going.
I can’t say I’m worried about being on your list though, since it’s apparently based on nothing at all, and trying to defend yourself simply reinforces your scumitude.