Note the description and formatting of the first message
It’s painted in “white paint”, but a portion of the message is coded in blue. This may or may not be significant. Of course, we know The Butcher is Town, so any significance of the formatting may be moot now anyway. As to the message itself, it’s not merely telling us that the SK will win if not dead, it’s telling us that the SK will win if not dead. The author made a point to emphasize ‘will’, as if to ensure us that the SK is in fact a PFK, and will steal the win from us. I’d think that was implied by the term ‘Serial Killer’, but perhaps the messenger wanted to make that note perfectly clear.
The second message strongly suggests some sort of Masonry that does not have any off-board communication. Personally, I think it’s a bit early for them to be revealing themselves, but I guess it’s up to them.
The third message is the most puzzling to me. I wouldn’t think that the Wolves would be aware at this stage of the game that they can’t kill the SK, and I don’t think the SK would offer up that information on his own, so I’m guessing there is a role in the game whose specific purpose is to locate and eliminate the SK. either that, or it’s misinformation (on whose part I don’t know).
In any case, I think the only thing we can take from these messages is that there is in fact a Serial Killer in the game, and that if we think we’ve found him we ought to lynch him ourselves, rather than waiting for the Scum to take him out for us.
So it’s possible that he had information regarding the Serial Killer that we’re not privy to, and felt it best that he hold onto it until Day 2. Whether or not that’s what got him killed, and whether or not any critical information died with him, we can only guess.
In other news, I received this message at Dawn Today:
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Last night, though you slept soundly, you woke with an uneasy feeling. You have the sense that somehow, you evaded a terrible fate.
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I don’t know what it means…
Well it looks as if we do have a Serial Killer as the two messages seem to corroborate each other. Pleo could have had something about it in his PM and that’s why he held off claiming, much good it did him. The second message about a Serial Killer is odd, I don’t know of any player here who would be that grammatically incorrect by accident (don’t get me started on then and than or your and you’re). It looks as if it is meant to be misleading and if that was the only message about the SK we might not have taken it at face value. I’m not sure if it was written by scum to confuse us or a Townie with bad grammar, it gives us something to talk about though.
Cookies made a great suggestion about the middle message but I agree that if there are Watcher/Trackers out there they shouldn’t reveal themselves right now unless they have really important info that could help us catch a scum or prevent a mislynch.
Hard to tell who killed who at this stage, but it sounds like we may have managed to avoid waking up to three dead bodies, which I’m hoping is a good thing. And Town Vigs do have a tendency to to kill other Townies so Pleo’s demise may be somewhat of a boon.
I’m wondering why Suburban is playing coy with his “I don’t know what that means…” When there’s a pretty obvious interpretation stating him in the face.
That said, I’m willing to believe Suburban is town because scum trying a gambit like that seems remote. Still, I’d feel more comfortable with independent confirmation. I’m not asking for the Doctor to come out, but if/when the Doc shows up, if that person can’t confirm protecting Suburban, we’ll have an issue to discuss.
Yes, obviously the implication is that someone protected me.
That being the case, one does not usually receive notification that they were the object of a protective act; usually an attack is attempted, a protection is made, and nobody knows anything. So it’s unusual that I received a message that **seems **to say “somebody tried to kill you in the Night, but they failed”. And there’s nothing in my role that would explain why I would receive such a message.
Perhaps it would have been more correct if I had said “I don’t know what, if anything, are the implications of this message”.
That’s a good point, from #57 we know there’s at least one win-stealing 3rd party who cannot win before D5 so there’s something wrong with this message.
Yeah, the blue could indicate some sort of power: a mechanism to make messages appear from others, a way to associate messages to the recently departed, a message from beyond the grave, a weird way to supply results to a name cop, or else some messages appear to be from the sender’s, or someone else’s, role name.
One wonders how much on the barn, per the player submitted messages, is wine. Or if it is all wine. Perhaps scum would burn their barn writing on the first night to this end.
What if a power feeds off of, or from the quantity or quality of barn posts. That a player could select to use a power on a player who has, has not used the barn writing power.
Also, if pleonast wrote his message, it could have been colored blue after his death - no one can color messages, but they are colored for us by the mod after the author dies.
On I pod touch so brief and errant spelling and periods abound here, thanks auto incorrect!!!
I was just going to make a post asking to be subbed but it doesn’t matter since I was NK’d anyway.
My apologies to all and especially to Storyteller. I was more busy in RL than I expected and 2 games starting at the same time was too much to keep up with. (I just finally caught up in the other game!)
So, I think clearly the note and coloring were Pleo’s. He must have been trying to tell us (or any name detective out there) that the Butcher is a town role. I am guessing tonight we may see more messages in blue, probably from the scum.
The second message, I agree, looks like it is from some sort of masons/twins/brothers/lovers. I am not sure why TTW is so anxious to reveal. I would advise waiting.
I’m not sure what to make of the third message. Pleo obviously had info about the SK that he thought was important enough to use his wall message on. Although, I agree that it doesn’t seem like staggering news that the SK will win unless we kill him. Someone else may have also received info about the SK that they thought was important enough to share. Or the SK or the wolves could just be playing with us.
What are the chances that the SK would try a gambit like that? Certainly not out of the realm of possibilty. Perhaps the good doctor will write something on the wall for us.
I was ready last Night to vote for Pleo and Chucara, thinking that Pleo’s pointing out Pizza’s alleged PIS slip was what put Pizza in the noose instead of Chucara. I was obviously wrong about Pleo’s motivation for saving Chucara, but I still think Chucara looks scummy.
A gambit like Ender described. If Suburban were the SK and knew that his kill failed for some reason, he might claim to have received a message that he was the target and was protected. What better way to look like a townie? Likewise, if he were scum. Of course, he could have really been protected and that is the most likely explanation, but I agree with Ender that it doesn’t hurt to remain skeptical.
I agree with everyones assessment of the barn notes.
Don’t claim whoever you are! It’s way too early.
As for the SK, so if we believe the notes, the only way to kill the SK is by lynch at this point, unless there’s a second vig, or another non-wolf killing role?
assuming I’m reading/cogitating correctly, there was potential for at least three kills last night (scum, vig, sk); there were two kills, and taking Suburban at his word, a third was prevented in some way.
depending on the “pre-established order of events” (rules), this could indicate that either the vig’s target was Suburban and was prevented because of the vig’s own demise, or Val was the vig’s target and either the scum or sk’s kill was blocked.
I don’t imagine storyteller would notify a player that they narrowly avoided death due to “order of events”, so I’m leaning towards the latter. in which case, either we have a doc that was protecting Suburban, or we have a blocker that made a wise choice.
I don’t think the former situation provides us much insight - but please correct me if I’m wrong.
if the latter situation, does it follow that the blocker should block the same target on N2 to see if a useful pattern emerges?
The thing is, we don’t know whether Suburban was protected or whether somebody with a kill was blocked. Our doctor (whoever that may be, and do we have more than one?) certainly knows whether Suburban was protected last night, but it would be silly of him/her to reveal that info right now.
Hopefully **Pleonast **will come shambling back during Day 3 to let us know if he had anymore information, but I somehow doubt he would have burned his only wall message on his second-best piece of info. I think he knew he was probably going to die and signed the message the way he did so that his death would verify his message. It was a good move.
I don’t have any comments about the 2nd post that haven’t been made already. I agree with the assessment that it’s probably a watcher/tracker talking to another. I also agree that they shouldn’t reveal yet.
The third post is the stickiest. I think Astral Rejection’s read of it sounds pretty convincing:
I also searched through the first 200 posts or so looking for a similar apostrophe error and came up with nothing. Then I got bored. I’m inclined to chalk it up to carelessness or a poor mislead rather than an actual clue.
