[Mafia game] The Realm of Phere

I haven’t the foggiest. When I received the role, it was a ninja which had no kill powers. Just a watch action. Since he describes doing damage in his PMs to Normal, I can only assume he changed classes or was bluffing.

PM Pizza and see if he’ll fill you in.

Also - taking a dinner break. I’ll be back later for more re-reading and posting.

Ok, well while we wait for that answer on does math Tuesday, was there anything else you wanted to know?

I think Askthepizzaguy is ‘confused’ with the two statements that:

  • it’s the endgame
  • it can be won by both sides

as with this number of players alive the chances of any side winning must be very different.

As i’ve said, I was told nothing at all about what Lilflower had done - and that included hearing precisely nothing about any PMs.

That’s fair. Askthepizzaguy doesn’t know what PMs have been sent. He does know the actions you’ve taken, though.

First: I’ve exchanged PM’s with neither Inner Stickler nor realitytrip. If there was a nefarious motive for my “absolving” Inner, I think I’d have found a better way to phrase the “absolution.” :cool: Two reasons I don’t suspect Inner are meta-arguments: (1) I think realitytrip would be less likely to drop out if he had an exciting Scum role, (2) Inner has implied, in at last two prior games, that he regards it as highly unethical for active Scum to have very low participation. (I’m not completely sure if his participation until recently was low enough to justify that meta-argument. Admittedly, his participation picked up today. :dubious: )

Second, I did send guiri my list of actions and don’t know why he thinks I’m lying. In fact, the very stupidity of my actions implies I’m just another hapless Townie. :smiley: For example, I’m the guy who wasted a Day Attack against ToeJam the same Day he was Lynched. This flaw was caused by my sleeping schedule, but would certainly not have happened if I were in communication with the Scummy triple-voter.

I think guiri (and LightFoot, my other confidant) will agree my actions have not been anti-Town. I’ve not posted them publicly to increase the pressure against players who’ve not revealed, but guiri or LightFoot are welcome to reveal my actions if they deem that appropriate.

I would like Fubbles and Scathach to die. I don’t know if Fubbles is Scum or just an anti-Town 3rd Party, but either way he won’t be a misLynch. The choice now is between Lynching Scathach and getting a single good death, or Lynching Fubbles and Attacking Scathach for two good deaths.

I think players are discouraged by the damage scathach has taken without dying, but I think she’s near her limit. She’s taken 850 (or 900?) points damage, probably had only 1000 hp, so is almost out. (Does anyone know a role with more than 1000 hp?) BTW, the fact that she seems to have as many as 1000 hp is, I think, further cause for suspicion.

I’m happy to attack one suspect and lynch another.

Also I just thought of another area of suspicion.
Characters like me (who’ve died and come back to takeover non-participating players) have an interesting restriction.
If we were originally Scum, we couldn’t come back as Town (even with the ‘non-disclosure’ agreement, it would be too much to ask not to reveal who all the Scum were!)
And so any former Scum returning would logically have to be new Scum. :eek:
That means that original Scum who don’t post can’t be replaced in a satisfactory way.
Have we got any unreplaced players?!

In fairness this is the first time you’ve fully articulated your case on me, which previously seemed to be “she’s lurking”.
I did respond to your WoW, and my suspicion of you was because your participation seemed different than in other games I’ve played with you. Although I note you have in fact started looking at other players now.

I’m a templar knight and I defended myself against all physical damage. Of course I got nailed by magic damage so there you go.

:dubious:

Who would you attack, who would you lynch? Have you shared any of your actions?

No, it means that dead scum cannot sub back in again. Inactive scum can be replaced by any dead non-scum.

I stated my case previously, possibly not as comprehensively though. You didn’t respond to my WoW until after I was resurrected and voted you. Who else do you suspect?

What’s a templar knight? What have you been up to?

  1. You.
  2. Tanaer - who has been playing the newb card heavily as an excuse for everything.
    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15094555&postcount=3317
    in particular is saying a lot without saying anything.

Choie also, I don’t know if she’s been breadcrumbing that she’s the one raising people or if I’m reading too much into what she’s hinting with her very secret role that she’ll only tell to a few, and her implicit trust of the newly raised. But I don’t trust the raised - Mosier was raised by Phere and turned out to be a good Zombie Knight. But none of the people raised by the “white light” have been killed again, so I’m not as convinced as some that they maintained their previous alignment. (Which is part of my reason for being suspicious of you :)). Also the increasing number of raised people could be one explanation for why we’re apparently in endgame.

Forgot this bit:

Not a lot. I became a templar knight about a Day ago. I can basically attack or defend myself. I haven’t attacked anyone, and I defended myself last night. (Not that it stopped me from getting slaughtered by everyone anyway, but hey :p). I also gain 50 defense against physical attacks if I’m holding a staff, but I presume it’s fairly hopeless that anyone’s going to be voting me items any time soon :frowning:

I know of such a role! It’s mine.

I have a staggering 1400 hit points. Scathach having a lot of HP is not in and of itself suspicious.

What did you base your assumption that 1000 is the limit on?

1000 was the largest hp that I knew of. I didn’t state it was the maximum.

Your response only confirms my main point: that, while scathach has a large hp, it is probably finite and likely to be mostly used up by now.

What have you been doing to get so many Hit Points?? lol.

I still don’t know who to vote for and EOD is creeping up, I am floundering here and I don’t like it.

Is there anyone in the game that you do trust?

Your top 2 scum candidates I find very trust worthy. If** choie** is scum then I will eat my hat, not that I have one but I will buy one and send the bill to her :slight_smile:

Ha, I fully expect choie’s first scumflip will take me by complete surprise. I think she’s good enough to snow me, which admittedly is not very difficult.

She would probably be just as good as scum, I want to be on her scum team although she probably wouldn’t want me :smiley: